Diving time of IX boats within SH4?

germannoob · 07-08-08, 12:46 PM

Just got the idea to test my crew and made a crash dive. Well, the crew is godlike. 10 seconds after the command and the IX-B was underwater. Tested it without any mods, then only RFB, then only TMO. It's the same. After 10seconds I'm underway to the deep deep poor freighters ever sunk here.

The real diving time of the IX Class was at about 38seconds. Whats doing this?

Have tried it with:
- original
- TMO + OM v301+patch
- RFB + OM v301+patch
- TMO
- RFB

It's still the same. Anyone other have the same problem?

Syxx_Killer · 07-08-08, 01:36 PM

It's a stock 1.5 issue. No mod is the cause of it.

Penelope_Grey · 07-08-08, 03:31 PM

I have noticed this as well with the IXD2 in SH4. Don't get me wrong, in a pinch... very cool!! lol

But historically speaking, utterly bogus...

Slowing down the crash dive time would probably mean changing the dat file or the sim file... forget which controls the crashdives and ranges and other such things... Am leaning toward the sim file...

stoopid memory not working right...

I dare say there is a way to slow it down.

elanaiba · 07-09-08, 04:37 AM

Sim file is your friend.

Penelope_Grey · 07-09-08, 05:49 AM

Thank-you very much elanaiba

RFB Team · 07-09-08, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elanaiba

Sim file is your friend.

We've tried to fix it, but nothing's worked. Dive BT times, Main BT times, you name it, we've tried it. Darn thing won't budge.

07-09-08, 06:47 PM

In the SHXsim.act files references are made to the DiveBT.
SH3 does not list this in the IXD sim.
Try removeing the reference in the SH4 sim file.

ElephantMemory · 08-04-08, 07:20 AM

Anyone had any luck with this lately. I noticed it also when I got the game. the U-boat is underwater in less than 10 seconds. And I can surface in about 5 seconds! It is really out of control.

AntEater · 08-04-08, 09:03 AM

Just tried a bit. You have to drastically lower the flood values, to something around 20 or 30 to get anywhere near realistic dive times. With 35 I got almost 30 seconds with a IXD2, but that is still too fast.
Apparently, for game purposes, the ballast tanks of the german boats are only 1% of the size of the fleet boats!

Orion2012 · 08-04-08, 01:32 PM

The dive time's are outrageous.

Adriatico · 08-04-08, 02:08 PM

Sorry for extending the thread, but I was wondering what is sonar reflection of type IX, compared to VIIc ?

When allied escort is scanning in GWX 2.1 - is it any more reflective object (more visible) compared to smaller type VIIc ?

Any combat experience ?
Any direct reply form the "pack" creators ?

:hmm:

LukeFF · 08-04-08, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriatico

Sorry for extending the thread, but I was wondering what is sonar reflection of type IX, compared to VIIc ?

When allied escort is scanning in GWX 2.1 - is it any more reflective object (more visible) compared to smaller type VIIc ?

Any combat experience ?
Any direct reply form the "pack" creators ?

:hmm:

Why are you asking these questions here?

McBeck · 08-05-08, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriatico

Sorry for extending the thread, but I was wondering what is sonar reflection of type IX, compared to VIIc ?

When allied escort is scanning in GWX 2.1 - is it any more reflective object (more visible) compared to smaller type VIIc ?

Any combat experience ?
Any direct reply form the "pack" creators ?

:hmm:

Why are you asking these questions here?

Easy there Luke...he IS off topic, but your statement could easily be mistaken for rudeness...

Adriatico · 08-05-08, 02:57 AM

You are right, I've mistaken the forums... but it could be something to think about in SH4 Atlantic development.

SteamWake · 08-05-08, 02:38 PM

Just a thought but...

Yea I noticed the dive times in 'crash dive' are a tad quick :p

So uhh dont use crash dive? :hmm:

The normal dive seems a bit more realistic.

Also if you modify the files to increase the crrash dive times wont that effect the normal dive times as well?

07-08-08, 12:46 PM	#1
germannoob Sailor man Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 46 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Diving time of IX boats within SH4? Just got the idea to test my crew and made a crash dive. Well, the crew is godlike. 10 seconds after the command and the IX-B was underwater. Tested it without any mods, then only RFB, then only TMO. It's the same. After 10seconds I'm underway to the deep deep poor freighters ever sunk here. The real diving time of the IX Class was at about 38seconds. Whats doing this? Have tried it with: - original - TMO + OM v301+patch - RFB + OM v301+patch - TMO - RFB It's still the same. Anyone other have the same problem?

07-08-08, 03:31 PM	#3
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have noticed this as well with the IXD2 in SH4. Don't get me wrong, in a pinch... very cool!! lol But historically speaking, utterly bogus... Slowing down the crash dive time would probably mean changing the dat file or the sim file... forget which controls the crashdives and ranges and other such things... Am leaning toward the sim file... stoopid memory not working right... I dare say there is a way to slow it down. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

07-09-08, 04:37 AM	#4
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Sim file is your friend. __________________ With strength I burn...

07-09-08, 05:49 AM	#5
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank-you very much elanaiba __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

08-04-08, 09:03 AM	#9
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just tried a bit. You have to drastically lower the flood values, to something around 20 or 30 to get anywhere near realistic dive times. With 35 I got almost 30 seconds with a IXD2, but that is still too fast. Apparently, for game purposes, the ballast tanks of the german boats are only 1% of the size of the fleet boats! __________________

07-08-08, 01:36 PM	#2
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	It's a stock 1.5 issue. No mod is the cause of it.

07-09-08, 06:47 PM	#7
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	In the SHXsim.act files references are made to the DiveBT. SH3 does not list this in the IXD sim. Try removeing the reference in the SH4 sim file.

08-04-08, 07:20 AM	#8
ElephantMemory Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 35 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Anyone had any luck with this lately. I noticed it also when I got the game. the U-boat is underwater in less than 10 seconds. And I can surface in about 5 seconds! It is really out of control.

08-04-08, 01:32 PM	#10
Orion2012 Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 611 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The dive time's are outrageous.

08-04-08, 02:08 PM	#11
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Sorry for extending the thread, but I was wondering what is sonar reflection of type IX, compared to VIIc ? When allied escort is scanning in GWX 2.1 - is it any more reflective object (more visible) compared to smaller type VIIc ? Any combat experience ? Any direct reply form the "pack" creators ? :hmm: __________________

08-05-08, 02:57 AM	#14
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	You are right, I've mistaken the forums... but it could be something to think about in SH4 Atlantic development. __________________

08-05-08, 02:38 PM	#15
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Just a thought but... Yea I noticed the dive times in 'crash dive' are a tad quick :p So uhh dont use crash dive? :hmm: The normal dive seems a bit more realistic. Also if you modify the files to increase the crrash dive times wont that effect the normal dive times as well?