CO2 bug anyone else? - Page 2

Rockin Robbins · 03-19-08, 12:33 PM

I love it when SUBSIM works like it's supposed to, with nobody doing the UBI MUST DIE!! thing, just everyone working together to properly identify and solve an issue. Good work guys!

skwasjer · 03-19-08, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyBravo

Same here, I had the 'not securing from silent running' bug at the same time.

A save/load fixed it and so far it's not happened again.

WB.

I am not sure if I had that, I do remember no crew on deck and unable to have them man the deck gun... Forgot to mention this.

Reminds me of Pirates of the Carabbean, where they flip the boat and sail under water... :rotfl:

THE_MASK · 03-19-08, 05:21 PM

No co2 bug yet . Heres my sh4 folder if anyone wants to check out my campaign .

http://files.filefront.com/SH4rar/;9.../fileinfo.html

you have to run only rsrdc and w_clear enviroment mod 4 if you want to play it .

kiwi_2005 · 03-19-08, 05:40 PM

I got this bug once and haven't had it since, game is running nearly as stock only mods im using is spax sound mod & uboat dark skins.

THE_MASK · 03-19-08, 06:08 PM

A few more questions
I googles this

"The information below was taken largely from a more comprehensive review, Spacecraft Maximum Allowable Concentrations for Selected Airborne Contaminants, Volume 2 (NRC 1996). The studies discussed represent those most relevant to submariners and the submarine environment.
CO2 is a simple asphyxiant and lethal asphyxiations have been reported at concentrations as low as 110,000 ppm (Hamilton and Hardy 1974). Loss of consciousness can occur within a minute of exposure at 300,000 ppm and within 5-10 minutes (min) of exposure at 100,000 ppm (HSDB 2004). The effects of concentrations of CO2 between 7,000 and 300,000 ppm in humans "

What does 10% CO2 represent in the game . When does my crew just suddenly die ?

Rockin Robbins · 03-19-08, 08:27 PM

100,000 parts per million is 10%. 500,000 ppm is 50%

So loss of consciousness with 30% within a minute, at 10% would cause loss of consciousness in 5 – 10 minutes. Death has happened with concentration as low as 11%. All this is based on the information in Sober's post. Looks like my crew would have all died in r/l with 35%, and they were still kicking!

Tough guys, these Germans.

Zantham · 03-19-08, 09:03 PM

It seems to me that the CO2 gauge in SH4 is a percentage of the lethality to the sub crew. At 100% there is no longer enough oxygen in the boat for humans to survive. There is no point in measuring CO2 levels beyond this point. Thus 50%, even 75% is quite survivable, though as it approaches 100% the crews efficiency should start to falter.

Rockin Robbins · 03-20-08, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Zantham

It seems to me that the CO2 gauge in SH4 is a percentage of the lethality to the sub crew. At 100% there is no longer enough oxygen in the boat for humans to survive. There is no point in measuring CO2 levels beyond this point. Thus 50%, even 75% is quite survivable, though as it approaches 100% the crews efficiency should start to falter.

That makes a LOT more sense than what I had!

AVGWarhawk · 03-20-08, 08:03 PM

Well, it was darn simple really. I submerged until the CO2 icon popped up. I was at 10%. I clicked the CO2 blinking icon and this surfaces the boat. The boat vented and all was well. So, it looks to me if you hit the S key to surface or the interface key to surface this buggers up the CO2. So, click the blinking CO2 key next time and see if this works for you as well.

Vorkapitan · 03-20-08, 08:19 PM

Yup! got the same problem. Have to close to windows after saving to get it right.

Joe
:p

AVGWarhawk · 03-20-08, 08:50 PM

Joe,

Check out my post above yours. Once under and the CO2 icon pops up, your CO2 level is at 10%. OK, fine. When you are ready to surface, click the CO2 icon that popped up and the boat will surface. Once surfaced the boat will vent and CO2 will go to zero. I did this 5 times tonight and it worked fine.

THE_MASK · 03-20-08, 09:24 PM

I can blow that theory out of the water , as i have been surfacing using the normal surface menu button on the bottom panel . CO2 vents fine every time . I have just saved while submerged and i will see how that goes .

Fincuan · 03-20-08, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

OK, fine. When you are ready to surface, click the CO2 icon that popped up and the boat will surface. Once surfaced the boat will vent and CO2 will go to zero. I did this 5 times tonight and it worked fine.

I've seen the bug a few times using this way of surfacing, as well as using the surface button in the orders bar(unmodded game).

Vorkapitan · 03-21-08, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Joe,

Check out my post above yours. Once under and the CO2 icon pops up, your CO2 level is at 10%. OK, fine. When you are ready to surface, click the CO2 icon that popped up and the boat will surface. Once surfaced the boat will vent and CO2 will go to zero. I did this 5 times tonight and it worked fine.

Thanks - will give it a try

Joe

WernerSobe · 03-21-08, 10:50 AM

I also get compressed air exhaust bug when i try a crash dive.

03-19-08, 12:33 PM	#16
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Heh, heh, heh!!! I love it when SUBSIM works like it's supposed to, with nobody doing the UBI MUST DIE!! thing, just everyone working together to properly identify and solve an issue. Good work guys! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

03-19-08, 05:40 PM	#19
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	I got this bug once and haven't had it since, game is running nearly as stock only mods im using is spax sound mod & uboat dark skins. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

03-19-08, 08:27 PM	#21
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	As a percentage 100,000 parts per million is 10%. 500,000 ppm is 50% So loss of consciousness with 30% within a minute, at 10% would cause loss of consciousness in 5 – 10 minutes. Death has happened with concentration as low as 11%. All this is based on the information in Sober's post. Looks like my crew would have all died in r/l with 35%, and they were still kicking! Tough guys, these Germans. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

03-20-08, 08:03 PM	#24
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Well, it was darn simple really. I submerged until the CO2 icon popped up. I was at 10%. I clicked the CO2 blinking icon and this surfaces the boat. The boat vented and all was well. So, it looks to me if you hit the S key to surface or the interface key to surface this buggers up the CO2. So, click the blinking CO2 key next time and see if this works for you as well. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road Last edited by AVGWarhawk; 03-20-08 at 08:51 PM.

03-20-08, 08:50 PM	#26
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Joe, Check out my post above yours. Once under and the CO2 icon pops up, your CO2 level is at 10%. OK, fine. When you are ready to surface, click the CO2 icon that popped up and the boat will surface. Once surfaced the boat will vent and CO2 will go to zero. I did this 5 times tonight and it worked fine. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-19-08, 05:21 PM	#18
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	No co2 bug yet . Heres my sh4 folder if anyone wants to check out my campaign . http://files.filefront.com/SH4rar/;9.../fileinfo.html you have to run only rsrdc and w_clear enviroment mod 4 if you want to play it .

03-19-08, 06:08 PM	#20
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	A few more questions I googles this "The information below was taken largely from a more comprehensive review, Spacecraft Maximum Allowable Concentrations for Selected Airborne Contaminants, Volume 2 (NRC 1996). The studies discussed represent those most relevant to submariners and the submarine environment. CO2 is a simple asphyxiant and lethal asphyxiations have been reported at concentrations as low as 110,000 ppm (Hamilton and Hardy 1974). Loss of consciousness can occur within a minute of exposure at 300,000 ppm and within 5-10 minutes (min) of exposure at 100,000 ppm (HSDB 2004). The effects of concentrations of CO2 between 7,000 and 300,000 ppm in humans " What does 10% CO2 represent in the game . When does my crew just suddenly die ?

03-19-08, 09:03 PM	#22
Zantham 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 283 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 1	It seems to me that the CO2 gauge in SH4 is a percentage of the lethality to the sub crew. At 100% there is no longer enough oxygen in the boat for humans to survive. There is no point in measuring CO2 levels beyond this point. Thus 50%, even 75% is quite survivable, though as it approaches 100% the crews efficiency should start to falter.

03-20-08, 08:19 PM	#25
Vorkapitan Samurai Navy Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 594 Downloads: 1367 Uploads: 0	Yup! got the same problem. Have to close to windows after saving to get it right. Joe :p

03-20-08, 09:24 PM	#27
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	I can blow that theory out of the water , as i have been surfacing using the normal surface menu button on the bottom panel . CO2 vents fine every time . I have just saved while submerged and i will see how that goes .

03-21-08, 10:50 AM	#30
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I also get compressed air exhaust bug when i try a crash dive.