Release Date Pushed back again

GoldenRivet · 04-02-17, 10:56 PM

Latest on the Steam page is a release period of 3Q 2017.

looks like we are going to be steaming into September+ before a hard release date is known

on the one hand, we have seen developers advertise heavily on the eye candy and push back release dates and build anticipation only to pull a bait and switch in delivering a sub par product with minimal post release support

on the other hand, it could be that the dev team is wanting to release their product in as close to perfect condition as possible. Goodness knows we have seen our fair share of premature releases in the subsim genre over the last decade

i for one think that Uboot is a promising title and has a lot to offer based solely on what i have seen, but i maintain a bit of skepticism and will certainly be posting a detailed review of the game giving the good, the bad and the ugly as soon as i possibly can find the time to play it for a week or so, organize my thoughts and present them here.

so what do you guys think?

looming eye candy bait and switch tactic - or - dedicated dev team trying their best to out-deliver previous subsim genre titles ?

Julhelm · 04-03-17, 03:35 AM

Well, we at Killerfish are consistently too optimistic on release dates. The reality is that development always takes longer than anticipated and especially if you have a small team that cannot afford to release a subpar product.

If you look at Uboot, the scope of their game has clearly grown by orders of magnitude since the initial kickstarter.

I also don't think anyone seriously tries to pull a 'bait and switch' - that is almost always the result of ambition being greater than the means to pull it off. STALKER was a good example of this.

burki · 04-03-17, 05:08 PM

Not really doing a bait and switch, but I really wish they would let backers and donors have access to it soon. We were suppose to have access to it in January. They've pushed it back maybe because of the board game, which is a bad idea I think. Really hope those who backed the game have access to it soon. Tired of the pushbacks.

Onkel Neal · 04-03-17, 07:45 PM

I always give the developers the benefit of the doubt. They will do their best.

qiaoyech · 04-03-17, 11:35 PM

I agree with Julhelm. The chance that a small developer team would delay release to con players is much smaller than bigger titles.

The only way they would take the same pay for more work is when they want to build a nice reputation. Now if they start to offer day-0 DLCs and cosmetics then I'd start to be skeptical. Until they, I cheer for the devs for trying hard to make it a superior release.

CCIP · 04-05-17, 01:10 PM

No matter what a publisher/developer says about a release date, you must always read it as "when it's done"

Frankly, I'm always more worried when the release date stays too firm, because things rarely go according to plan - and vice versa, delays aren't necessarily a bad thing.

In fact, if Silent Hunter III wasn't delayed by nearly a year (in order to add a dynamic campaign), I'd bet most of us wouldn't even be here on Subsim today

04-02-17, 10:56 PM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,712 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Release Date Pushed back again Latest on the Steam page is a release period of 3Q 2017. looks like we are going to be steaming into September+ before a hard release date is known on the one hand, we have seen developers advertise heavily on the eye candy and push back release dates and build anticipation only to pull a bait and switch in delivering a sub par product with minimal post release support on the other hand, it could be that the dev team is wanting to release their product in as close to perfect condition as possible. Goodness knows we have seen our fair share of premature releases in the subsim genre over the last decade i for one think that Uboot is a promising title and has a lot to offer based solely on what i have seen, but i maintain a bit of skepticism and will certainly be posting a detailed review of the game giving the good, the bad and the ugly as soon as i possibly can find the time to play it for a week or so, organize my thoughts and present them here. so what do you guys think? looming eye candy bait and switch tactic - or - dedicated dev team trying their best to out-deliver previous subsim genre titles ? __________________

04-03-17, 07:45 PM	#4
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	I always give the developers the benefit of the doubt. They will do their best. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

04-03-17, 11:35 PM	#5
qiaoyech Watch Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 30 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 1	I agree with Julhelm. The chance that a small developer team would delay release to con players is much smaller than bigger titles. The only way they would take the same pay for more work is when they want to build a nice reputation. Now if they start to offer day-0 DLCs and cosmetics then I'd start to be skeptical. Until they, I cheer for the devs for trying hard to make it a superior release. __________________ Download NSS Interceptor Updated

04-05-17, 01:10 PM	#6
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	No matter what a publisher/developer says about a release date, you must always read it as "when it's done" Frankly, I'm always more worried when the release date stays too firm, because things rarely go according to plan - and vice versa, delays aren't necessarily a bad thing. In fact, if Silent Hunter III wasn't delayed by nearly a year (in order to add a dynamic campaign), I'd bet most of us wouldn't even be here on Subsim today __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-03-17, 03:35 AM	#2
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 690 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	Well, we at Killerfish are consistently too optimistic on release dates. The reality is that development always takes longer than anticipated and especially if you have a small team that cannot afford to release a subpar product. If you look at Uboot, the scope of their game has clearly grown by orders of magnitude since the initial kickstarter. I also don't think anyone seriously tries to pull a 'bait and switch' - that is almost always the result of ambition being greater than the means to pull it off. STALKER was a good example of this.

04-03-17, 05:08 PM	#3
burki Watch Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 17 Downloads: 121 Uploads: 0	Not really doing a bait and switch, but I really wish they would let backers and donors have access to it soon. We were suppose to have access to it in January. They've pushed it back maybe because of the board game, which is a bad idea I think. Really hope those who backed the game have access to it soon. Tired of the pushbacks.