Helo & Flightsim Screenshot Thread! - Page 72

Jimbuna · 03-12-08, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

Thats indeed not a smart move of the OFF dev team,
they should have left Phase 2 as freeware so people can Try before purchasing Phase 3.

anyway, I lucky have mine stored on my HD.

HunterICX

It shouldn't bother you though......you told me you purchase all your games :hmm:

Dowly · 03-12-08, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Thats indeed not a smart move of the OFF dev team,
they should have left Phase 2 as freeware so people can Try before purchasing Phase 3.

anyway, I lucky have mine stored on my HD.

HunterICX

It shouldn't bother you though......you told me you purchase all your games :hmm:

Dont we all?

Biggles · 03-12-08, 11:52 AM

he...

Lucky me then. I dl. and installed OFF P2 not too long ago! And I ain't paying for Phase 3, that's for sure! ( in that I mean, I won't get it, 'key?)

Jimbuna · 03-12-08, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Thats indeed not a smart move of the OFF dev team,
they should have left Phase 2 as freeware so people can Try before purchasing Phase 3.

anyway, I lucky have mine stored on my HD.

HunterICX

It shouldn't bother you though......you told me you purchase all your games :hmm:

Dont we all?

What ?......Oh, that, yes....of course

HunterICX · 03-12-08, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Thats indeed not a smart move of the OFF dev team,
they should have left Phase 2 as freeware so people can Try before purchasing Phase 3.

anyway, I lucky have mine stored on my HD.

HunterICX

It shouldn't bother you though......you told me you purchase all your games :hmm:

Dont we all?

I certainly hope so,

anyway, its about purchasing a MOD :hmm: havent done that before.
but I'm happy with Phase 2 as it will keep me busy.

HunterICX

Slice · 03-12-08, 02:24 PM

Seems donations didn't cover bandwith not suprised a few 1000 downloads @ 2GB a pop LOOL, so something has to give I guess. The fact it is still available via the DVD swap in the forum is encouraging.

They didn't have it hosted on other 3rd party sites apart from the mirror which is polovski's anyway.

oh I don't know about fecked up - some people give stuff away completely - others are more cautious and like to maintain copyright - its a free world. P2 is still free anyway I see in sim-outhouse forum there's a thread you can ask for a DVD no problem. I guess if it was totally free and copyright free some other company could grab it and charge for it yikes.

There's some website that has all the free CFS3 mods on from sim-outhouse and others, and he hosts them there, makes no mention of the person who made it, then charges you to be a member to download these free mods.. now that isn't right !

Dowly · 03-12-08, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slice

Seems donations didn't cover bandwith not suprised a few 1000 downloads @ 2GB a pop LOOL, so something has to give I guess. The fact it is still available via the DVD swap in the forum is encouraging.

They didn't have it hosted on other 3rd party sites apart from the mirror which is polovski's anyway.

Right, and here they fecked up. They kept it to themselves and had to pay the price, there's trillion alternative hosting methods FOR FREE.

Slice · 03-12-08, 03:23 PM

Just read this on their website - explains it more

AIMS of OBD:

So far we have given away Phase 1 and Phase 2 for free with an option to donate.
We released in phases in a bid to keep CFS3 alive and keep folks happy with something to play as we knew this was going to be a long haul (oh and what a haul it has been )

Donations have been very slim especially when viewed in the light of large numbers of downloads - moreover we have seen many posts with great comments from happy flight simmers- many people say it's the best flight simulator they ever played, not our words, and that was just Phase 2.

Effectively our donations campaign to keep the OFF website alive (a fully dedicated high bandwidth server) have run aground yet downloads continue.

Phase 3 has been extensively reworked and added to, from fabulous new AI, High res terrain textures, extensive additions to the campaign manager, over 2GB more of textures, and many many improvements as per the info page. It really is a whole new experience.

Now having seen Phase 3 up and running, we believe Phase 2 pales into insignificance compared to Phase 3.

Thus in order to continue to grow OFF and go forward we have abandoned the donationware option and are now on a payware footing.

Funds thus gathered will will help up purchase a new engine, fund the website/server, and further development and pay some expenses.
Voluntary Donationware simply does not work.

Slice · 03-12-08, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slice

Seems donations didn't cover bandwith not suprised a few 1000 downloads @ 2GB a pop LOOL, so something has to give I guess. The fact it is still available via the DVD swap in the forum is encouraging.

They didn't have it hosted on other 3rd party sites apart from the mirror which is polovski's anyway.

Right, and here they fecked up. They kept it to themselves and had to pay the price, there's trillion alternative hosting methods FOR FREE.

yeah true, but all along they say they wanted copyright to remain with them, once you have it available in all sorts of ways you cannot control what happens or which version is out there I guess.

XabbaRus · 03-12-08, 05:33 PM

But what I don't get it unless they got the source code they can't do major stuff without hacking the game. Kind of like what has happened with DW.

I think it sucjs they charge for the mod. They are making money off of it. They could do diddly squat ifMS wanted to take their stuff as they have the rights to the sim.

Slice · 03-12-08, 06:24 PM

yeah I guess we will see when it comes out, if it's brilliant I will pay whatever it takes

cos I am a sim nut.

HunterICX · 03-15-08, 09:36 AM

HE111:Look behind us!
its a bird, no its a aircraft, no..its HunterICX.he's baaaaaack!

HunterICX

Jimbuna · 03-15-08, 09:48 AM

Am I to presume you've finally purchased a cheap mic to replace that expensive one you couldn't understand and will soon be hearing your dulcit tones on TS again ?

HunterICX · 03-15-08, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Am I to presume you've finally purchased a cheap mic to replace that expensive one you couldn't understand and will soon be hearing your dulcit tones on TS again ?

Nope just 1946 re-installed, the hardware store was closed.
so your ears are still safe

just need to open port: 21000 and I'm back to host them flying circus

HunterICX

Jimbuna · 03-15-08, 10:17 AM

Good lad.....at least that's one step in the right direction

I can see you right now over on TS, but your not responding

03-12-08, 11:52 AM	#1068
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	he... Lucky me then. I dl. and installed OFF P2 not too long ago! And I ain't paying for Phase 3, that's for sure! ( in that I mean, I won't get it, 'key?) __________________

03-12-08, 02:24 PM	#1071
Slice Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Seems donations didn't cover bandwith not suprised a few 1000 downloads @ 2GB a pop LOOL, so something has to give I guess. The fact it is still available via the DVD swap in the forum is encouraging. They didn't have it hosted on other 3rd party sites apart from the mirror which is polovski's anyway. oh I don't know about fecked up - some people give stuff away completely - others are more cautious and like to maintain copyright - its a free world. P2 is still free anyway I see in sim-outhouse forum there's a thread you can ask for a DVD no problem. I guess if it was totally free and copyright free some other company could grab it and charge for it yikes. There's some website that has all the free CFS3 mods on from sim-outhouse and others, and he hosts them there, makes no mention of the person who made it, then charges you to be a member to download these free mods.. now that isn't right ! Last edited by Slice; 03-12-08 at 02:44 PM.

03-12-08, 05:33 PM	#1075
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	But what I don't get it unless they got the source code they can't do major stuff without hacking the game. Kind of like what has happened with DW. I think it sucjs they charge for the mod. They are making money off of it. They could do diddly squat ifMS wanted to take their stuff as they have the rights to the sim. __________________

03-15-08, 09:36 AM	#1077
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	HE111:Look behind us! its a bird, no its a aircraft, no..its HunterICX.he's baaaaaack! HunterICX __________________

03-15-08, 09:48 AM	#1078
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Am I to presume you've finally purchased a cheap mic to replace that expensive one you couldn't understand and will soon be hearing your dulcit tones on TS again ? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

03-12-08, 03:23 PM	#1073
Slice Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just read this on their website - explains it more AIMS of OBD: So far we have given away Phase 1 and Phase 2 for free with an option to donate. We released in phases in a bid to keep CFS3 alive and keep folks happy with something to play as we knew this was going to be a long haul (oh and what a haul it has been ) Donations have been very slim especially when viewed in the light of large numbers of downloads - moreover we have seen many posts with great comments from happy flight simmers- many people say it's the best flight simulator they ever played, not our words, and that was just Phase 2. Effectively our donations campaign to keep the OFF website alive (a fully dedicated high bandwidth server) have run aground yet downloads continue. Phase 3 has been extensively reworked and added to, from fabulous new AI, High res terrain textures, extensive additions to the campaign manager, over 2GB more of textures, and many many improvements as per the info page. It really is a whole new experience. Now having seen Phase 3 up and running, we believe Phase 2 pales into insignificance compared to Phase 3. Thus in order to continue to grow OFF and go forward we have abandoned the donationware option and are now on a payware footing. Funds thus gathered will will help up purchase a new engine, fund the website/server, and further development and pay some expenses. Voluntary Donationware simply does not work.

03-12-08, 06:24 PM	#1076
Slice Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	yeah I guess we will see when it comes out, if it's brilliant I will pay whatever it takes cos I am a sim nut.

03-15-08, 10:17 AM	#1080
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Good lad.....at least that's one step in the right direction I can see you right now over on TS, but your not responding __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)