Various Problems - Please Help :( - Page 4

Karbo · 05-04-08, 12:42 PM

Sound Card is on board Realtek, Mouse is a Logitech with infared. I too have been noticing a pattern with Vista and 8800 GTX. I'm sure it will get sorted out in time. My video card recomended a 450 watt power supply I thought that the 500 watt would be sufficient. I could be wrong LOL. I havn't had trouble with the rest of my games/sims since some of the better drivers have come out. I havn't gave up on SH4 just taking a break for a bit and hope this gets sorted out.

icecold · 05-04-08, 04:22 PM

Well we can rule out power supply problems...

I have a 800 watt supply and i can run much heavier games without a problem.

stabiz · 05-04-08, 04:28 PM

Probably Vista then. If I remember correctly, Vista is not officially supported by SH4.

Doolittle81 · 05-04-08, 04:30 PM

I have had two months of trying to get SH4 1.5 working correctly with Pacific Environment MOD(s)...PE2 and the latest PE3. I get BSOD no matter what I do, no matter what settings I use for In-Game Graphic Options and/or nHancer settings for my 8800GTX/168MB card. I spent this past Thursday and Friday, approximately SEVEN hours each day in one final massive and methodical testing. NO solution.

Now, here is the ODD part: When I enable W_Clear's "Environment 4.3" MOD(s), SH4 1.5 runs almost perfectly...that is, I occasionally get a BSOD but it is unpredictable and does not occur immediately every time axs it does with PE. Further testing: If I disable "Post Processing" and "Texture HighQuality" in In-Game Options, I seem to be able to run SH4 1.5/W_Clear's EE without ferar of BSOD, even under the most intense action/explosions/etc.

As I have suggested in the Pacific Environment thread, it seems to me that there is something extremely incompatible between SH4 1.5 and the PE Mods, at least for 8800GTX/VISTA owners, but for the life of me I am unable to find it. So, for me, I will use W_Clear's Environment MOD(s) with 1.5, and use Pacific Environment MOD(s) with 1.4 when I want PE eye candy.

Icecold: if you are using the PE MOD(s), or probably also the earlier ROW MODs, with your SH4 1.5, try disabling them...see what happens.

As for overheated graphics card being the problem, I think my experience and testing preclude that. I have an 850 Watt PSU, no overheating... I can also alternately and frequently load "SH4 1.5 with W_Clears MOD" with my "SH4 1.5 with PE Mods" (I have two 1.5 installations, plus one SH4 1.5 installation), and invariably the latter will crash/BSOD immediately when an 'action' occurs, such as the first DD firing a deck gun or, of course, any torpedoe hit explosion. The former, however will work flawlessly (with Post PRocessing and High texture turned OFF). Back and forth between the two, the results never vary. SH4 1.5 with PE=BSOD. SH1.5 with W_Clear's Environ MOD=SH4 runs smooth.

I have to assume that others are out there with 8800GTX cards and are successfully running SH4 1.5 with the Pacific Environment MOD(s)....I can only relate my own experience.

FYI, here's my Rig:

ASUS P5N32-E SLI
Dual core E6700 Cpu
2GB OCZ PC2 8800 (1100Mhz) RAM
BFG 8800GTX w/768MB Graphics card
Audigy2 ZS
4 Seagate 400GB hard drives in a 0+1 RAID array
Plextor PX-800A
Samsung SyncMaster 244T 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1200 native resolution
Windows VISTA 32bit

OCZ PSU 850W SLI X-RM
Antec P180 Case (three 120mm fans) plus additional Zalman CNPS9700LED CPU Fan

Doolittle81 · 05-04-08, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stabiz

Probably Vista then. If I remember correctly, Vista is not officially supported by SH4.

That is not correct. The SH4 manual and box both specifically state that SH4 is compatible with Windows XP and VISTA.

icecold · 05-04-08, 06:16 PM

It does say that too...

But from what i can see... its not.. either that or its not compatable with 8800GTX... Or even both... But once again... it says that it is...

I think we can safely say... this is a bug that needs a patch or a hotfix from someone.

stabiz · 05-04-08, 07:40 PM

My bad, then.

However, there is nothing wrong with PE.

My rig:

Abit AB9 Pro
Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2,4 ghz
2GB DDR2
8800 GT
Mist 500w PSU
Onboard Realtek sound
XP Pro

I have NEVER had BSOD, and the game havent crashed since the infamous "A" key debacle. Running ROW since the first releases, and currently running PE, without problems.

I still think its Vista.

Wilcke · 05-05-08, 09:19 AM

Where shooting blanks here....you are going to need a "Vista Pro" to get into the innards of this problem.

Most of us still run the XP Pro.

Come on Vista guys, give this a shot! Fame and fortune are waiting!

Jsbl · 05-05-08, 09:58 AM

Seems like there are a lot of us using vista 32 + 8800 and not being able to play the game.

Hope this gets solved some day. SH4 was an awesome game to play.

Rockin Robbins · 05-05-08, 12:45 PM

*looks around furitively for elnaiba*

badaboom · 05-05-08, 06:54 PM

You might want to try this from the UBI forum.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/1381091756

icecold · 05-05-08, 07:08 PM

Thanks bada, But that post is a bit dodgy... as i run my game from the .exe anyways. Plus it dosnt seem to save me from the BSOD.

But if you find anything more please continue to post on this thread.

ALL HELP APPRICIATED, i will not give up on this game...

icecold · 05-05-08, 08:03 PM

If anyone is a tech, then mabey here is a lowdown for the possible solution.

PROBLEM
________

SH4 1.5 GETS BSOD WHEN TORPEDO HITS OR AN EXPLOSION TAKES PLACE

---

PROBLEM IS LINKED TO...
_____________________

SH4 1.4+ VERSIONS
+
WINDOWS VISTA 32BIT
+
NVIDIA 8800GTX (ONLY WHEN ANTIALIASING AND/OR ANTISTROPIC FILTERING ARE SET TO ABOVE "APPLICATION CONTROLED"... WHICH MEANS REALY CRAP GRAPHICS IF NOT SET TO NVIDIA MAX SETTINGS)

Doolittle81 · 05-05-08, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icecold

....

PROBLEM ________
SH4 1.5 GETS BSOD WHEN TORPEDO HITS OR AN EXPLOSION TAKES PLACE

---

PROBLEM IS LINKED TO...

SH4 1.4+ VERSIONS
+
WINDOWS VISTA 32BIT
+
NVIDIA 8800GTX

That is not my experience. For me there has NEVER been a BSOD using SH4 version 1.4........and I have VISTA and 8800GTX.

However, with SH4 1.5, I have BSOD's...always have them with "PE3" enabled. I can avoid BSOD's with SH4 1.5 plus W_Clear's "Environment" MOD but only if I turn OFF In-Game "Post Processing" and "Texture Quality High" Options.

The problem only arose with the release of UBoat Missions (1.5) version. The presence of VISTA and 8800GTX was a constant in the equation. It's definitely an SH4 1.5 issue...efffecting, not caused by, VISTA/8800GTX.

icecold · 05-06-08, 03:48 AM

Well i had the problem with 1.4... untill they released a hotfix... so they obviously need to release another hotfix.

05-04-08, 04:28 PM	#48
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Probably Vista then. If I remember correctly, Vista is not officially supported by SH4. __________________

05-04-08, 04:30 PM	#49
Doolittle81 Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 624 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I have had two months of trying to get SH4 1.5 working correctly with Pacific Environment MOD(s)...PE2 and the latest PE3. I get BSOD no matter what I do, no matter what settings I use for In-Game Graphic Options and/or nHancer settings for my 8800GTX/168MB card. I spent this past Thursday and Friday, approximately SEVEN hours each day in one final massive and methodical testing. NO solution. Now, here is the ODD part: When I enable W_Clear's "Environment 4.3" MOD(s), SH4 1.5 runs almost perfectly...that is, I occasionally get a BSOD but it is unpredictable and does not occur immediately every time axs it does with PE. Further testing: If I disable "Post Processing" and "Texture HighQuality" in In-Game Options, I seem to be able to run SH4 1.5/W_Clear's EE without ferar of BSOD, even under the most intense action/explosions/etc. As I have suggested in the Pacific Environment thread, it seems to me that there is something extremely incompatible between SH4 1.5 and the PE Mods, at least for 8800GTX/VISTA owners, but for the life of me I am unable to find it. So, for me, I will use W_Clear's Environment MOD(s) with 1.5, and use Pacific Environment MOD(s) with 1.4 when I want PE eye candy. Icecold: if you are using the PE MOD(s), or probably also the earlier ROW MODs, with your SH4 1.5, try disabling them...see what happens. As for overheated graphics card being the problem, I think my experience and testing preclude that. I have an 850 Watt PSU, no overheating... I can also alternately and frequently load "SH4 1.5 with W_Clears MOD" with my "SH4 1.5 with PE Mods" (I have two 1.5 installations, plus one SH4 1.5 installation), and invariably the latter will crash/BSOD immediately when an 'action' occurs, such as the first DD firing a deck gun or, of course, any torpedoe hit explosion. The former, however will work flawlessly (with Post PRocessing and High texture turned OFF). Back and forth between the two, the results never vary. SH4 1.5 with PE=BSOD. SH1.5 with W_Clear's Environ MOD=SH4 runs smooth. I have to assume that others are out there with 8800GTX cards and are successfully running SH4 1.5 with the Pacific Environment MOD(s)....I can only relate my own experience. FYI, here's my Rig: ASUS P5N32-E SLI Dual core E6700 Cpu 2GB OCZ PC2 8800 (1100Mhz) RAM BFG 8800GTX w/768MB Graphics card Audigy2 ZS 4 Seagate 400GB hard drives in a 0+1 RAID array Plextor PX-800A Samsung SyncMaster 244T 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1200 native resolution Windows VISTA 32bit OCZ PSU 850W SLI X-RM Antec P180 Case (three 120mm fans) plus additional Zalman CNPS9700LED CPU Fan __________________ Flight Sim Movies .............................................. .........................View "Faith, Hope, and Charity" movie Last edited by Doolittle81; 05-06-08 at 01:30 PM.

05-04-08, 07:40 PM	#52
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	My bad, then. However, there is nothing wrong with PE. My rig: Abit AB9 Pro Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2,4 ghz 2GB DDR2 8800 GT Mist 500w PSU Onboard Realtek sound XP Pro I have NEVER had BSOD, and the game havent crashed since the infamous "A" key debacle. Running ROW since the first releases, and currently running PE, without problems. I still think its Vista. __________________

05-05-08, 09:19 AM	#53
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	Where shooting blanks here....you are going to need a "Vista Pro" to get into the innards of this problem. Most of us still run the XP Pro. Come on Vista guys, give this a shot! Fame and fortune are waiting! __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

05-05-08, 12:45 PM	#55
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	looks around furitively for elnaiba __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

05-04-08, 12:42 PM	#46
Karbo Sailor man Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 49 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Sound Card is on board Realtek, Mouse is a Logitech with infared. I too have been noticing a pattern with Vista and 8800 GTX. I'm sure it will get sorted out in time. My video card recomended a 450 watt power supply I thought that the 500 watt would be sufficient. I could be wrong LOL. I havn't had trouble with the rest of my games/sims since some of the better drivers have come out. I havn't gave up on SH4 just taking a break for a bit and hope this gets sorted out.

05-04-08, 04:22 PM	#47
icecold Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Periscope depth 200 yards from your stern! Posts: 93 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Well we can rule out power supply problems... I have a 800 watt supply and i can run much heavier games without a problem.

05-04-08, 06:16 PM	#51
icecold Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Periscope depth 200 yards from your stern! Posts: 93 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	It does say that too... But from what i can see... its not.. either that or its not compatable with 8800GTX... Or even both... But once again... it says that it is... I think we can safely say... this is a bug that needs a patch or a hotfix from someone.

05-05-08, 09:58 AM	#54
Jsbl Seaman Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 34 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Seems like there are a lot of us using vista 32 + 8800 and not being able to play the game. Hope this gets solved some day. SH4 was an awesome game to play.

05-05-08, 06:54 PM	#56
badaboom Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 359 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	You might want to try this from the UBI forum. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/1381091756 __________________

05-05-08, 07:08 PM	#57
icecold Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Periscope depth 200 yards from your stern! Posts: 93 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Thanks bada, But that post is a bit dodgy... as i run my game from the .exe anyways. Plus it dosnt seem to save me from the BSOD. But if you find anything more please continue to post on this thread. ALL HELP APPRICIATED, i will not give up on this game...

05-05-08, 08:03 PM	#58
icecold Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Periscope depth 200 yards from your stern! Posts: 93 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	If anyone is a tech, then mabey here is a lowdown for the possible solution. PROBLEM ________ SH4 1.5 GETS BSOD WHEN TORPEDO HITS OR AN EXPLOSION TAKES PLACE --- PROBLEM IS LINKED TO... _____________________ SH4 1.4+ VERSIONS + WINDOWS VISTA 32BIT + NVIDIA 8800GTX (ONLY WHEN ANTIALIASING AND/OR ANTISTROPIC FILTERING ARE SET TO ABOVE "APPLICATION CONTROLED"... WHICH MEANS REALY CRAP GRAPHICS IF NOT SET TO NVIDIA MAX SETTINGS)

05-06-08, 03:48 AM	#60
icecold Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Periscope depth 200 yards from your stern! Posts: 93 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Well i had the problem with 1.4... untill they released a hotfix... so they obviously need to release another hotfix.