[REL]The Wolves of Steel - SH5 Megamod - Page 752

Tonci87 · 11-20-18, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap

You must be an aviation history expert if you can spot from your periscope the difference between a squadron of Ju 87C and one of Ju 87G dive bombers, but you don't bother mentioning that the Polish minelayer being bombed is actually an R-class British destroyer lol

I agree. My knowledge on SH5 AI is nearly equal to zero, but going by what TDW used to say on it, AI routines for aircraft are too limited for simulating the proper strategy for each situation...

Well compromises have to be made

There is something that has been bothering me for a while and I hope that someone here might have a proper answer.

How exactly did Type VII U-Boats determine the targets speed, range and AOB?

We have multiple options in game, but how realistic are those?

For example, I have read somewhere that the boats did not have a stadimeter to measure the range as we do in game. But I can´t find sources that are clear on that.

How realistic are the RAOBF and the U-jagd clock?
I already know that the backside of the attack disc we have in game, was not present on Kriegsmarine attack discs.

Lanzfeld · 11-20-18, 12:20 PM

I have read that early both did have a statimeter on them but it was taken out for some reason. I think uboat captains used the redicle to estimate distance. The lines on the left-hand side of the periscope view.

Tonci87 · 11-20-18, 04:22 PM

it seems as if, for some reason, Germany stopped fitting Stadimeters to u-Boats during wartime. I guess they were expensive.

It seems as if the Stadimeter could also be used horizontally to get the targets AOB after entering the ships length.
See here
http://www.tvre.org/en/acquiring-torpedo-firing-data

The range and AOB finding device looks very much like the RAOBF we have in game, only that the ingame RAOBF is not linked to a stadimeter.

Any chance to implement a stadimeter function for the RAOBF?
So that the inner ring moves automatically when you use the stadimeter?
See here:
http://www.tvre.org/demos/demo_3/ind...l?setLng=en-US

that is a demo of only the rangefinding function. The AOB finding function would offset the image horizontally.

Could it be possible to implement a horizontal stadimeter?

Geoff then · 11-22-18, 06:45 AM

Is this mod multiplayer-compatible?
Sorry in advance, if this question has been answered before somewhere around here.

cheers

Cybermat47 · 11-22-18, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff then

Is this mod multiplayer-compatible?
Sorry in advance, if this question has been answered before somewhere around here.

cheers

If the other person is running the same version of the mod, and the same additional mods.

Fifi · 11-22-18, 12:30 PM

Hi guys,

For testing purpose against destroyers, i tried to get back my U-mark to see the sub direction in external view when underwater, but no way...

I deactivated the real nav mod of course, activated the map contacts settings, but still nothing.
I have the U-Mark dds in my data/misc nevertheless.

What did i missed to get this visual icon back? Or maybe it’s impossible with TWOS?

Tonci87 · 11-22-18, 01:43 PM

Regarding the U-Jagd clock:

Apparently this clock was originally intended to be used on German Sub hunters to measure the speed of the submarine being hunted.

However it was also used by U Boat crew, so it can be assumed that it is historically accurate if you use it to measure the speed of a target vessel.

Does everybody know how it is used or should I write a little how-to?

THEBERBSTER · 11-22-18, 04:28 PM

Hi Fifi
Take a look at this.
External U-Boat Markers by Venatore > TWoS Compatible > Enable JSGME

Peter

Fifi · 11-22-18, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Hi Fifi
Take a look at this.
External U-Boat Markers by Venatore > TWoS Compatible > Enable JSGME

Peter

Yes Peter, i tried those too... without success... don’t know why i can’t get this damn U mark back

Oh well...

vdr1981 · 11-23-18, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Hi Fifi
Take a look at this.
External U-Boat Markers by Venatore > TWoS Compatible > Enable JSGME

Peter

No one noticed that this is a mod for SH3?

THEBERBSTER · 11-23-18, 05:00 AM

Hi Fifi
Picture in medium fog at 19 meters.

Peter

Fifi · 11-23-18, 05:14 AM

there is something in my settings that is making U-Mark not effective, but i’m stuck on this.
Full clean reinstall is still the same, even with difficulty settings set to zero!
That’s quite incredible and a bit ridiculous to not be able to get this noob setting!

Torpedo · 11-23-18, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

there is something in my settings that is making U-Mark not effective, but i’m stuck on this.
Full clean reinstall is still the same, even with difficulty settings set to zero!
That’s quite incredible and a bit ridiculous to not be able to get this noob setting!

Hi Fifi!
I do not know if it's the solution to your problem, but by clicking on "Ctrl + Del (NumPad)" the U-Mark disappears or reappears like a switch.

Torpedo

Fifi · 11-23-18, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torpedo

Hi Fifi!
I do not know if it's the solution to your problem, but by clicking on "Ctrl + Del (NumPad)" the U-Mark disappears or reappears like a switch.

Torpedo

Thanks for the tip Torpedo will try to see if it works

Fifi · 11-23-18, 07:20 AM

No chance Torpedo... still nothing ...
I think i’ll Give up with that

11-22-18, 06:45 AM	#11269
Geoff then Gunner Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Kiel, Germany Posts: 96 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Is this mod multiplayer-compatible? Sorry in advance, if this question has been answered before somewhere around here. cheers __________________ "Natürlich ist das 'n Weihnachtsbaum, oder meinste, damit wird die Brücke getarnt, oder was?"

11-22-18, 12:30 PM	#11271
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,722 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 0	Hi guys, For testing purpose against destroyers, i tried to get back my U-mark to see the sub direction in external view when underwater, but no way... I deactivated the real nav mod of course, activated the map contacts settings, but still nothing. I have the U-Mark dds in my data/misc nevertheless. What did i missed to get this visual icon back? Or maybe it’s impossible with TWOS? __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/oirl8...ION_V5.7z/file

11-22-18, 04:28 PM	#11273
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi Fifi Take a look at this. External U-Boat Markers by Venatore > TWoS Compatible > Enable JSGME Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

11-23-18, 05:00 AM	#11276
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi Fifi Picture in medium fog at 19 meters. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

11-23-18, 05:14 AM	#11277
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,722 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 0	there is something in my settings that is making U-Mark not effective, but i’m stuck on this. Full clean reinstall is still the same, even with difficulty settings set to zero! That’s quite incredible and a bit ridiculous to not be able to get this noob setting! __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/oirl8...ION_V5.7z/file

11-20-18, 12:20 PM	#11267
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	I have read that early both did have a statimeter on them but it was taken out for some reason. I think uboat captains used the redicle to estimate distance. The lines on the left-hand side of the periscope view.

11-20-18, 04:22 PM	#11268
Tonci87 Captain Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 545 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	it seems as if, for some reason, Germany stopped fitting Stadimeters to u-Boats during wartime. I guess they were expensive. It seems as if the Stadimeter could also be used horizontally to get the targets AOB after entering the ships length. See here http://www.tvre.org/en/acquiring-torpedo-firing-data The range and AOB finding device looks very much like the RAOBF we have in game, only that the ingame RAOBF is not linked to a stadimeter. Any chance to implement a stadimeter function for the RAOBF? So that the inner ring moves automatically when you use the stadimeter? See here: http://www.tvre.org/demos/demo_3/ind...l?setLng=en-US that is a demo of only the rangefinding function. The AOB finding function would offset the image horizontally. Could it be possible to implement a horizontal stadimeter?

11-22-18, 01:43 PM	#11272
Tonci87 Captain Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 545 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	Regarding the U-Jagd clock: Apparently this clock was originally intended to be used on German Sub hunters to measure the speed of the submarine being hunted. However it was also used by U Boat crew, so it can be assumed that it is historically accurate if you use it to measure the speed of a target vessel. Does everybody know how it is used or should I write a little how-to?

11-23-18, 07:20 AM	#11280
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,722 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 0	No chance Torpedo... still nothing ... I think i’ll Give up with that __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/oirl8...ION_V5.7z/file