Reinstall Question

Lanzfeld · 10-12-14, 10:35 PM

Hi,

I have been deleting and reinstalling SH3 quite a bit the last few days while I try a bunch of mods for testing. I have the DVD with no starforce so this is really no trouble. I go to the programs menu in windows and uninstall SH3 and then I delete the Ubisoft folder and anything in my documents. Nice clean delete.

My question is should I be doing anything with my registry? Is it REALLY important that I get rid of anything with Ubisoft in my registry or can I just reinstall without this process?

irish1958 · 10-13-14, 07:35 AM

As long as you have no problems you can continue as you are doing. It is best to uninstall via the SH3 disk however. If you have any problems you then must uninstall via the disk and use a safe registry cleaner to complete the uninstall. It is also a good idea after this to inspect your hard drive to make sure everything is really gone.
I suggest you use multi-install to mess around with mod trials, keep a fresh unmodified SH3 file, and just delete the old one and copy the fresh one to the directory.
And of course stay away from the program files.

Lanzfeld · 10-13-14, 07:47 AM

"stay away from the program files."

Forgive me I do not follow. What do you mean by this?

Thanks for the tips BTW.

ReallyDedPoet · 10-13-14, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

"stay away from the program files."

Forgive me I do not follow. What do you mean by this?

Thanks for the tips BTW.

He means that if you are using Win 7 or 8 to not install the game in the Program Files, rather create a separate folder in the C Drive and install there.

If you are doing a lot of testing there is a great little mod that basically scripts all of the units out of the game, drastically reducing load times, which is a great thing when testing mods, etc. I think it should be somewhere in the d\l section. If you can't find it PM me with your email and I can send it to you.

Also another idea is to create a separate install for testing purposes, again saves you from what you mention above

At one time with SH3 I had probably 5-6 installs. A clean install for comparing files, one for just testing, and 2-3 others for playing.

Lanzfeld · 10-13-14, 08:14 AM

I have windows 7 and it is installed in programsX86.

Again, forgive me for not knowing but is this location ok and if not, why?

ReallyDedPoet · 10-13-14, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

I have windows 7 and it is installed in programsX86.

Again, forgive me for not knowing but is this location ok and if not, why?

It's been known to be buggy when installing there. I am using SH3 with Win 8.1 and have installed it to a folder outside of the Program Files in C. I called it Submarine and installed everything there. Same with SH3 Commander, it has its own folder outside of C.

If you do a search you will see a bunch of threads on this. Though I must admit I have not used 7, went from XP to Win 8.

THEBERBSTER · 10-13-14, 08:39 AM

32 bit ganes always default to the program x86 folder unless you tell it otherwise.

The guys are giving you good advice here.

What I would do is create a games folder.

So the installation path would look something like.

C:\Games\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 3

I play both SH4 and 5 and keep my games in the one folder.

I am waiting for my SH3 to arrive so all three games will be in the one folder Ubisoft.

Draka · 10-13-14, 08:39 AM

The key point is that starting with Win7, Microsoft has started imposing a lot of restrictions on anything in the Program folders - either Program itself or Program (x86). These are measures that supposedly deter or impede hackers and other malicious programs. Part of it is not allowing any files in those folders to be changed except under very rigorous controls - so any .cfg files are fairly well wonked.

Main idea is to install any files that are constantly being written to in any other folders than the Program ones.

Draka

ReallyDedPoet · 10-13-14, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draka

The key point is that starting with Win7, Microsoft has started imposing a lot of restrictions on anything in the Program folders - either Program itself or Program (x86). These are measures that supposedly deter or impede hackers and other malicious programs. Part of it is not allowing any files in those folders to be changed except under very rigorous controls - so any .cfg files are fairly well wonked.

Main idea is to install any files that are constantly being written to in any other folders than the Program ones.

Draka

Nicely said

ReallyDedPoet · 10-13-14, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

32 bit ganes always default to the program x86 folder unless you tell it otherwise.

The guys are giving you good advice here.

What I would do is create a games folder.

So the installation path would look something like.

C:\Games\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 3

I play both SH4 and 5 and keep my games in the one folder.

I am waiting for my SH3 to arrive so all three games will be in the one folder Ubisoft.

Nice advice as well.

ReallyDedPoet · 10-13-14, 09:28 AM

Here is that mod I mentioned above:Here

From the read me:

This mod is to be used to rapidly load SH3 by replacing the campaign files with blank files.
This is to be used when one wishes to load a mission or test a modification of files not effected by the campaign files.
When this file is activated via JSGME the player cannot play the campaign.

Lanzfeld · 10-13-14, 11:04 AM

Wow I never knew any of this! Thanks for all the advice and tips.

Uninstalled everything, used ccleaner, defragged, and installed in c:/simulations/silenthunter3/...

Best forum ever.

Pisces · 10-14-14, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draka

The key point is that starting with Win7, Microsoft has started imposing a lot of restrictions on anything in the Program folders - either Program itself or Program (x86). These are measures that supposedly deter or impede hackers and other malicious programs. Part of it is not allowing any files in those folders to be changed except under very rigorous controls - so any .cfg files are fairly well wonked.

Main idea is to install any files that are constantly being written to in any other folders than the Program ones.

Draka

Actually, it started with Vista. So those systems it applies to as well.

Someone in this thread called it "buggy". Well, it is behaving exactly as Microsoft intended it. Considering that the game was made in the XP-era before Vista came around, it (and the programs that some modders made) expects it can do some things it cannot do anymore without raising the eyebrows of the OS. In XP everyone got a administrator account by default with much more freedom. So potential malware had free reign on your system. Microsoft decided rightly to put a stop to it, or at least make it harder to go by unnoticed. But whether the solution was a good one is something that can be debated.

From a gamer's or modding perspective it is certainly an annoyance if you find out that changes you made to the files did not stick. It may look broken, but it really is just preventing false positive potential malware actions.

ReallyDedPoet · 10-14-14, 03:29 PM

I said buggy :-)

Maybe not a great use of the word, it was more to explain that the game does not run well when set up in the Program(x86) as it was not meant to. Once folks realized to install it outside of the Program Files Win 7, 8 and Vista ( I avoided it like the plague ), things were not that bad.

10-12-14, 10:35 PM	#1
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Reinstall Question Hi, I have been deleting and reinstalling SH3 quite a bit the last few days while I try a bunch of mods for testing. I have the DVD with no starforce so this is really no trouble. I go to the programs menu in windows and uninstall SH3 and then I delete the Ubisoft folder and anything in my documents. Nice clean delete. My question is should I be doing anything with my registry? Is it REALLY important that I get rid of anything with Ubisoft in my registry or can I just reinstall without this process?

10-13-14, 07:35 AM	#2
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	As long as you have no problems you can continue as you are doing. It is best to uninstall via the SH3 disk however. If you have any problems you then must uninstall via the disk and use a safe registry cleaner to complete the uninstall. It is also a good idea after this to inspect your hard drive to make sure everything is really gone. I suggest you use multi-install to mess around with mod trials, keep a fresh unmodified SH3 file, and just delete the old one and copy the fresh one to the directory. And of course stay away from the program files. __________________ Irish1958

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THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	32 bit ganes always default to the program x86 folder unless you tell it otherwise. The guys are giving you good advice here. What I would do is create a games folder. So the installation path would look something like. C:\Games\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 3 I play both SH4 and 5 and keep my games in the one folder. I am waiting for my SH3 to arrive so all three games will be in the one folder Ubisoft. __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

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ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The one and only East Coast Posts: 10,775 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Here is that mod I mentioned above:Here From the read me: This mod is to be used to rapidly load SH3 by replacing the campaign files with blank files. This is to be used when one wishes to load a mission or test a modification of files not effected by the campaign files. When this file is activated via JSGME the player cannot play the campaign. __________________ Back in the Day

10-14-14, 03:29 PM	#14
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The one and only East Coast Posts: 10,775 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Reinstall Question I said buggy :-) Maybe not a great use of the word, it was more to explain that the game does not run well when set up in the Program(x86) as it was not meant to. Once folks realized to install it outside of the Program Files Win 7, 8 and Vista ( I avoided it like the plague ), things were not that bad. __________________ Back in the Day Last edited by ReallyDedPoet; 10-14-14 at 04:12 PM.

10-13-14, 07:47 AM	#3
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	"stay away from the program files." Forgive me I do not follow. What do you mean by this? Thanks for the tips BTW.

10-13-14, 08:14 AM	#5
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	I have windows 7 and it is installed in programsX86. Again, forgive me for not knowing but is this location ok and if not, why?

10-13-14, 08:39 AM	#8
Draka Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 256 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	The key point is that starting with Win7, Microsoft has started imposing a lot of restrictions on anything in the Program folders - either Program itself or Program (x86). These are measures that supposedly deter or impede hackers and other malicious programs. Part of it is not allowing any files in those folders to be changed except under very rigorous controls - so any .cfg files are fairly well wonked. Main idea is to install any files that are constantly being written to in any other folders than the Program ones. Draka

10-13-14, 11:04 AM	#12
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Wow I never knew any of this! Thanks for all the advice and tips. Uninstalled everything, used ccleaner, defragged, and installed in c:/simulations/silenthunter3/... Best forum ever.