Kriegsmarine Enigma Codebooks

defcom · 09-18-08, 09:46 AM

Hi Folks,

For those who are interested in background information on working with the Enigma cipher machine, I recently added some Kriegsmarine procedures and original Enigma code books and code sheets, Schlussel M TRITON, Kenngruppenbuch, Schlussel Henno (bigram tables) and added more information about Kurzsignalen, the Wetterkurzschlussel, Kenngruppenheft etc.

Naval Enigma procedures:
http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmaproc.htm

Kurzsignalen:
http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/kurzsignale.htm

Regards,

Dirk Rijmenants
Cipher Machines & Cryptology

bert8for3 · 09-18-08, 12:56 PM

Thanks and really interesting site btw

FIREWALL · 09-18-08, 01:34 PM

Hi defcom

Kool site.

I remember someone had a downloadable virtual enigma machine you could use to send messages with.

You could change rotors (I think thats what they were ) and hear the keys when you typed.

I reformated my rig and forgot to burn it to cd.

I hope someone was smarter than me and still has it.

defcom · 09-18-08, 01:51 PM

Hi Firewall,

Thanks for the compliments. The sim you're talking about is written by me

. You can find him on my website:

http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmasim.htm

Just download and have fun with it (and if you like it, pop by in the guestbook

)

FIREWALL · 09-18-08, 03:05 PM

Thx defcom

Will do. And this time I will burn to cd.

IMHO this is a gotta have for online playing like Teamspeak is for online Flight sims.

Or maybe LAN playing and someone is BdU.

I don't know how it would work as I have never played online or LAN.

Just a thought.

edit : Just d\l it and played with it for a bit. FUN!!!

Kurt Lange · 09-18-08, 06:29 PM

Defcom, that's a very interesting site you have there. I've added it to my favourites and will be having a good look through. Excellent stuff !

wntrmt · 09-21-08, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defcom

Hi Firewall,

Thanks for the compliments. The sim you're talking about is written by me

. You can find him on my website:

http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmasim.htm

Just download and have fun with it (and if you like it, pop by in the guestbook

)

wow, that's actually yours? I stumbled over it years ago and was really impressed. Fun toy, we even used it for fun in some emails (but actually prefer gpg

Nice work either way!

cheers,
wntrmt aka snwcrsh (what email address did i use hmmm)

U-46 Commander · 09-21-08, 10:21 PM

I have that download and also the codebook for it to. Its from Operation Spinnetz.

Platapus · 09-22-08, 05:57 PM

only slightly off topic.

If anyone is unlucky enough to be in our nation's capitol, be sure to check out the Spy Museum. They have a very nice computer display of how the Enigma worked. Most interesting. They also have an old 3 rotor no punchboard Enigma there also but the computer display is what is cooleo.

snwcrsh · 09-22-08, 06:00 PM

I actually operated an Enigma Replica once. A crypto guru brought it for some training stuff. Very fascinating indeed. Maybe it's a fetish for those mechanical things. My father still had one of these:

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008...echanical.html

I loved it since I was 3 or so

*click*click*click*clickclickclick*

Effigy · 09-22-08, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defcom

Hi Folks,

For those who are interested in background information on working with the Enigma cipher machine, I recently added some Kriegsmarine procedures and original Enigma code books and code sheets, Schlussel M TRITON, Kenngruppenbuch, Schlussel Henno (bigram tables) and added more information about Kurzsignalen, the Wetterkurzschlussel, Kenngruppenheft etc.

Naval Enigma procedures:
http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmaproc.htm

Kurzsignalen:
http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/kurzsignale.htm

Regards,

Dirk Rijmenants
Cipher Machines & Cryptology

Dirk! Funny meeting you here. This is, in fact, the site that brought me to yours and the wonderful enigma sim you've made (and others). I can't even remember now what post or who posted, maybe it was you after all, hah.

Effigy (from recent emails via your site).

FIREWALL · 09-22-08, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snwcrsh

I actually operated an Enigma Replica once. A crypto guru brought it for some training stuff. Very fascinating indeed. Maybe it's a fetish for those mechanical things. My father still had one of these:

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008...echanical.html

I loved it since I was 3 or so

*click*click*click*clickclickclick*

Thx for the link

I love things like that.

Imagine comeing up with that while in a concentration camp. AMAZEING !!!!

defcom · 09-23-08, 03:43 AM

If you like the real stuff, I have a page describing the breaking of a real message from U-264, called the M4 Project by Stefan Krah. The page isn't new, but I recently added a new link to an interview with Kpt Lt Hartwig Looks, and with others, about the attack on convoy ONS-5. It was great to have written a page about a U-boat kapt and then discover an actual interview.

The page: http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/m4project.htm

The video link is at the bottom (off-site links) but it's really worth reading the article and the story of U-264 first.

meduza · 09-23-08, 07:27 AM

Very nice

Thanx for the links, and especially for the simulator!

09-23-08, 04:04 PM

Reflector: Kriegsmarine M3 - UKW = C

Walzenlage: VIII VII I

Ringstellung: 03 07 03

Steckerverbindungen: AF BT ES GW HZ JL KX NQ PY RV

Kenngruppen: VIG HEF

Message to uncode: KQPY YQUM ROOU GWBV

Good Luck

09-18-08, 09:46 AM	#1
defcom Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 42 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Kriegsmarine Enigma Codebooks Hi Folks, For those who are interested in background information on working with the Enigma cipher machine, I recently added some Kriegsmarine procedures and original Enigma code books and code sheets, Schlussel M TRITON, Kenngruppenbuch, Schlussel Henno (bigram tables) and added more information about Kurzsignalen, the Wetterkurzschlussel, Kenngruppenheft etc. Naval Enigma procedures: http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmaproc.htm Kurzsignalen: http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/kurzsignale.htm Regards, Dirk Rijmenants Cipher Machines & Cryptology Last edited by defcom; 09-18-08 at 02:12 PM.

09-18-08, 12:56 PM	#2
bert8for3 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,124 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Thanks and really interesting site btw __________________

09-18-08, 01:34 PM	#3
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Hi defcom Kool site. I remember someone had a downloadable virtual enigma machine you could use to send messages with. You could change rotors (I think thats what they were ) and hear the keys when you typed. I reformated my rig and forgot to burn it to cd. I hope someone was smarter than me and still has it. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

09-18-08, 03:05 PM	#5
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Thx defcom Will do. And this time I will burn to cd. IMHO this is a gotta have for online playing like Teamspeak is for online Flight sims. Or maybe LAN playing and someone is BdU. I don't know how it would work as I have never played online or LAN. Just a thought. edit : Just d\l it and played with it for a bit. FUN!!! __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ??? Last edited by FIREWALL; 09-18-08 at 03:27 PM.

09-21-08, 10:21 PM	#8
U-46 Commander Lieutenant Join Date: May 2008 Location: The absolutely most exciting state!! Iowa! Posts: 251 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	I have that download and also the codebook for it to. Its from Operation Spinnetz. __________________ "Loved By Few, Hated By Many, Respected By All."-The U-boats.

09-18-08, 01:51 PM	#4
defcom Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 42 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Hi Firewall, Thanks for the compliments. The sim you're talking about is written by me . You can find him on my website: http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmasim.htm Just download and have fun with it (and if you like it, pop by in the guestbook )

09-18-08, 06:29 PM	#6
Kurt Lange Seaman Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cambridge UK, AN7559 Posts: 32 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Defcom, that's a very interesting site you have there. I've added it to my favourites and will be having a good look through. Excellent stuff !

09-22-08, 05:57 PM	#9
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,946 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	only slightly off topic. If anyone is unlucky enough to be in our nation's capitol, be sure to check out the Spy Museum. They have a very nice computer display of how the Enigma worked. Most interesting. They also have an old 3 rotor no punchboard Enigma there also but the computer display is what is cooleo. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-22-08, 06:00 PM	#10
snwcrsh Engineer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lübeck Posts: 211 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I actually operated an Enigma Replica once. A crypto guru brought it for some training stuff. Very fascinating indeed. Maybe it's a fetish for those mechanical things. My father still had one of these: http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008...echanical.html I loved it since I was 3 or so clickclickclickclickclickclick* __________________ = CRY PTO = MITSH VBHIZ OSMWG OECEY MLZTO UMDFV TKORD B

09-23-08, 03:43 AM	#13
defcom Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 42 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	If you like the real stuff, I have a page describing the breaking of a real message from U-264, called the M4 Project by Stefan Krah. The page isn't new, but I recently added a new link to an interview with Kpt Lt Hartwig Looks, and with others, about the attack on convoy ONS-5. It was great to have written a page about a U-boat kapt and then discover an actual interview. The page: http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/m4project.htm The video link is at the bottom (off-site links) but it's really worth reading the article and the story of U-264 first. Last edited by defcom; 09-23-08 at 05:21 AM.

09-23-08, 07:27 AM	#14
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Very nice Thanx for the links, and especially for the simulator! __________________

09-23-08, 04:04 PM	#15
Contact Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Reflector: Kriegsmarine M3 - UKW = C Walzenlage: VIII VII I Ringstellung: 03 07 03 Steckerverbindungen: AF BT ES GW HZ JL KX NQ PY RV Kenngruppen: VIG HEF Message to uncode: KQPY YQUM ROOU GWBV Good Luck