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Old 03-24-2017, 07:13 PM   #16
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Results from tests :





Bad edges splitted effect, in particular on the propeller :

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Old 03-24-2017, 07:30 PM   #17
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@the_Frog
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... the V&Ws had much in common with the Leader destroyers ...

Meaning: I am thinking from time to time to prepare an all new V&W model. Unfortunately, there a plenty of options what to do: only the original V&Ws or also the modified 4.7" version, the WAIRs, the LREs, the SREs ... the ones I like best are the WAIRs ... so, probably only those ...

Let's see.

Kovall converted the SH5 model. It is basically an upgraded SH3 model, with still not fully correct hull and superstructures. And the camouflage on the AO map is an USN Ms. 31/32 scheme ...
Very Nice! Very good to know your future plans.
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Old 03-24-2017, 08:53 PM   #18
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Final test : air attack during the night. All is OK. I think she's ready. I've deleted external storages.

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Old 03-25-2017, 01:58 AM   #19
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Testing new cargo !


 











Here a cloned Liberty without cargo, note the waterline's position.

 
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Old 03-25-2017, 05:07 AM   #20
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[QUOTE=Kendras;2474888]Testing new cargo !
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A few commnets:

- Liberty cargos had steel but not wood deck.
- Deck planking is always longitudinal. You changed the deck texture from steel to wood, right?
- Liberty cargos did not sport colourful peace time scheme, they were all grey and few even carried camouflage.
- Undesired edge effects are common with the SH5 models but that can be adjusted. Did you manage to get rid of the undesired hard edges?
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Old 03-25-2017, 05:47 AM   #21
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A few commnets:
- Liberty cargos had steel but not wood deck.
Yes, I read that, and I'm about to correct this.

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- Deck planking is always longitudinal. You changed the deck texture from steel to wood, right?
No, original texture (I just changed the color to something darker).

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- Liberty cargos did not sport colourful peace time scheme, they were all grey and few even carried camouflage.
OK. Too bad, I like colors !

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- Undesired edge effects are common with the SH5 models but that can be adjusted. Did you manage to get rid of the undesired hard edges?
I don't know how to do for yet. I have to learn !
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:08 AM   #22
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Here with a grey hull and a metal deck.

 

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Old 03-25-2017, 02:17 PM   #23
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@ the_frog :

Could you rework the propeller in order to remove edges splitted please ?
File sent in PM !

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Old 03-27-2017, 05:09 AM   #24
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The ship is ready. First post updated.

I'm just waiting for an answer from the_frog, to know if he wants to correct the propeller aspect.

Cheers.

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Old 03-28-2017, 01:06 PM   #25
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Kendras, please check your file drop ... I sent the new version of the propeller on sunday or so.
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Old 03-29-2017, 12:04 PM   #26
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Thank you very much my friend !

I have other problems :

 




I've downloaded Meshlab. How can I cure these problems with this software ? It seems very hard to understand !
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Old 03-29-2017, 03:12 PM   #27
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Kendras, check PM

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Old 03-30-2017, 11:05 AM   #28
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I have other problems :

 




I've downloaded Meshlab. How can I cure these problems with this software ? It seems very hard to understand !
Hi Kendras,

my suggestion is you to use Mod Tool for that particular task. Mod Tool is the free version of Autodesk Softimage; it features most of the functions and tools of the main version, but it can only be used for non commercial purposes. Both versions of the program are now discontinued, but you can still download Mod Tool from this link:

http://www.moddb.com/downloads/autod...ge-mod-tool-75

You will also need a plugin to export from it in obj format:

http://www.moddb.com/groups/softimag...5-obj-exporter

Once you got Mod Tool installed and working, load in Wings3D the model whose edges you want to weld. In body selection mode, select the edge-splitted geometry, right click and choose "Separate". This command will separate non-contiguous meshes in the original object (including faces that were erroneously splitted during the export process), putting each in a separate object. At this point, you should press the space bar to clear your current selection, and (again in body selection mode), select only the objects which need to be welded. When you have finished, choose "Export Selected" from the File menu, and save as obj.
Import the resulting file in Mod Tool, and select all the imported meshes by dragging the mouse on one of the viewports (a selection square will appear). If you did everything correctly, now you should be ready to use the "Merge" tool. Refer to the following instructions on its usage:

http://softimage.wiki.softimage.com/...ygonMeshes.htm

Please note tha if you used the "Blend" command instead, you would get a result similar to "Merge", but some new faces would be generated which would cause problems when importing the object in game, so make sure that you use the "Merge" tool. For tolerance factor using something between 0.001 and 0.0001 (10 to 1 mm in model's scale) should be okay. The smaller this value, the lesser likely that the model gets distorted due to wrong edges being welded together, but it is also higher the chance that some edges will remain splitted, in case their vertex coordinates are not identical (for splitted edges they should be identical though). Optional: using the same tool you can also weld splitted UV map edges. Not required for solving the hard edges issue, but recommended for saving file size
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Old 03-30-2017, 12:18 PM   #29
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Hi Kendras,

my suggestion is you to use Mod Tool for that particular task. Mod Tool is the free version of Autodesk Softimage; it features most of the functions and tools of the main version, but it can only be used for non commercial purposes. Both versions of the program are now discontinued, but you can still download Mod Tool from this link:

http://www.moddb.com/downloads/autod...ge-mod-tool-75

You will also need a plugin to export from it in obj format:

http://www.moddb.com/groups/softimag...5-obj-exporter

Once you got Mod Tool installed and working, load in Wings3D the model whose edges you want to weld. In body selection mode, select the edge-splitted geometry, right click and choose "Separate". This command will separate non-contiguous meshes in the original object (including faces that were erroneously splitted during the export process), putting each in a separate object. At this point, you should press the space bar to clear your current selection, and (again in body selection mode), select only the objects which need to be welded. When you have finished, choose "Export Selected" from the File menu, and save as obj.
Import the resulting file in Mod Tool, and select all the imported meshes by dragging the mouse on one of the viewports (a selection square will appear). If you did everything correctly, now you should be ready to use the "Merge" tool. Refer to the following instructions on its usage:

http://softimage.wiki.softimage.com/...ygonMeshes.htm

Please note tha if you used the "Blend" command instead, you would get a result similar to "Merge", but some new faces would be generated which would cause problems when importing the object in game, so make sure that you use the "Merge" tool. For tolerance factor using something between 0.001 and 0.0001 (10 to 1 mm in model's scale) should be okay. The smaller this value, the lesser likely that the model gets distorted due to wrong edges being welded together, but it is also higher the chance that some edges will remain splitted, in case their vertex coordinates are not identical (for splitted edges they should be identical though). Optional: using the same tool you can also weld splitted UV map edges. Not required for solving the hard edges issue, but recommended for saving file size
Oooooh ! OK I see !
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:17 AM   #30
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@ the_frog : tested the reworked model by you, and it's perfect ! Thank you !

Testing destructible cargo :

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