Over Flanders Fields

[Stealth Hunter]

That's actually a pretty good motto to live by.

OFF3 has been hyped like so many other games before that we've had to pay for, and like so many others, I doubt if it will offer any major improvements over its predecessor. Despite some of the outrageous and stupendous claims the team has been making (some of which completely defy the abilities of CFS3's program engine).

Never did like the mod all that much to begin with. I'll take Red Baron 3D's FULL CANVAS JACKET over OFF any day of the week. That was a game that had taste, style, and came at a great price. Too bad nobody plays it anymore. The sites that I used to download a lot of skins off of are now slowly dying, and it is becoming an old relic of the past... but it still was a helluva lotta fun.

[Sigurd]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

It's also illegal, too, since they edited Microsoft's original files without Microsoft's consent and re-distributed them, or so I've been informed. I'm pretty sure that they'd be interested in hearing the things OBD Software has been up to...

Wouldn't that make the payware mods for Flight Simulator (pretty much any version) illegal as well?

[Stealth Hunter]

If they edited the core files and then redistributed them, yep, it would.

[Sigurd]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

If they edited the core files and then redistributed them, yep, it would.

If that's the case, check out the EULA and License agreement for CFS3. Chances are there's a clause about modifying the game like this. Perhaps then give OFF a chance to remove the pricing? If memory serves, modification and distribution isn't nessicarily illegal, but charging for the distrobution is.

I guess the question is where they crossed the line if they did. Perhaps Microsoft would know?

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

If they edited the core files and then redistributed them, yep, it would.

Phase 3 is perfectly legal as Phase 3 still requires the original CFS3 game as base (discs & Installation) in order to run which makes Phase 3 a Add-on.

its an unnofical Add-on, just like seawolfs battle of the mediterranean.

dont think that OBD is that dumb to challenge Microsoft.

HunterICX

[Stealth Hunter]

When I downloaded OFF, I also got the main CFS3 engine in the main installer of the download (engine and the engine files; found it was possible to run CFS3 via these files without much change save for the loss of my preferences and career files). In that case, it's illegal. Some of the basic coding files had been edited, too (physics files differed from my CFS3 original copy).

OBD, after dealing with them in the past, they aren't as brilliant as they'd like to think. Even then, if it was illegal, it's doubtful Microsoft would even try to remember such an abominable game. They're probably still trying to bury it.

[nikimcbee]

Any news?:hmm:

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

After the lengthy install I fire up the mod, try a "quick combat", and now I'm asked to "insert the CFS3 CD please" WTF ? It took me a while to figure I could juste ditch the OFF .exe and replace it with the stock CFS.exe renamed.

Yeah well, I experienced that too with my new copy of CFS3. It appears you have to use the second disk from the original release....

[Biggles]

My system:

Intel Core CPU 6400 2.13 GHz
2GB RAM
Nvidia GF 7950GT OC (I've had some troubles with this card though, gets too warm all the time, freezing up my games when I play...never when I play OFF though).

I'll have to look up my specs. for OFF later on, don't know right now, but I agree that the game looks pretty neat from time to time!

[GSpector]

Any updates on the newest phase?

[Subtype Zero]

Found this update today. OFF 3 has gone to external beta! I've been waiting for this since RB3D!

We have basically met every one of our design goals and at this moment in time I am building a Beta3 build which, apart from going out to the team for final testing, is also being sent out to a few select chosen SOH users for external beta test - you know who you are!

Drop into http://www.overflandersfields.com/info.htm and refresh your browsers to see what the latest is .

Updated 1 September 2008


OVER FLANDERS FIELDS: BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL

A NEW EXPERIENCE IN EPIC WW1 DOGFIGHT ACTION with STUNNING DETAIL

FEATURES, IN BRIEF

• NEW DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED AI FOR FULL ON COMBAT

• HIGH RES FULLY SEASONAL RENDERED SCENERY

• AUTHENTIC, FULLY DYNAMIC CHANGABLE WEATHER

• HISTORICAL MOVING FRONT LINES and TERRAIN / TOWN DAMAGE

• TOTALLY NEW FULL CAMPAIGN ENGINE and MANAGER

• 100's OF SQUADRONS TO JOIN AND FLY

• 39 FLYABLE AIRCRAFT

• HISTORICALLY ASSIGNED SQUADRON CRAFT

• 3000+ HISTORICALLY RESEARCHED AIRCRAFT PAINTWORKS

• FLY ALONGSIDE ACES, WITH AUTHENTIC AIRCRAFT PAINTED AS THEY WERE IN 1915-18.

• INTENSE DETAIL: REAL FLIGHTS FROM REAL BASES FROM REAL SQUADRONS ON REAL ASSIGNED MISSIONS

• UP TO 226 AIRCRAFT (SCALABLE AND FURTHER EXPANDABLE!) IN THE AIR AT A TIME

• REAL BATTLES OCCUR AT THE CORRECT TIME AT THE FRONT

• MISSION REPLAY (REPLAY THE TIMELINE OF THE LAST MISSION)

• NEW ESCORT MISSIONS AND TWO SEATERS

• NEW and IMPROVED AIRCRAFT (See details on website)

• NEW MUSIC & ARTWORK : ORIGINAL SCORE by MATT MILNE

TOTAL REVISION MAJOR IMPROVEMENT ON PREVIOUS PHASES

MANY MANY MORE FEATURES and IMPROVEMENTS

http://www.overflandersfields.com/features.htm

[GSpector]

Wow, thanks for the update.

I hope the release date is soon.

[Subtype Zero]

September 7, 2008

2 New OFF Preview Movies Available!!

Downloading now. Get them here: http://www.overflandersfields.com/movies.htm

[GSpector]

Originally Posted by Subtype Zero

September 7, 2008

2 New OFF Preview Movies Available!!

Downloading now. Get them here: http://www.overflandersfields.com/movies.htm

Ww. they both looked awesome

[Subtype Zero]

Yes, OFF looks promising. In the videos, did you notice the working rockets and exhaust smoke from the two-seaters? Here are some more details about phase 3:

TOTALLY NEW FULL CAMPAIGN ENGINE Standalone Dynamic Campaign Engine that FULLY replaces the CFS3 campaign system.

HISTORICAL MOVING FRONT LINES and TERRAIN / TOWN DAMAGE

UP TO 226 AIRCRAFT (SCALABLE AND FURTHER EXPANDABLE!) IN THE AIR AT A TIME

AUTHENTIC, FULLY DYNAMIC CHANGEABLE WEATHER

Fully Dynamic weather - weather changes as player flies - in real time.

Historical weather mode

Moving front lines and creeping damage and dereliction

Mission Replay system - watch your recorded mission data play out on a 2D map viewed top down to see how you fared in your last mission

Join and fight in any of nearly 60 British, 103 German, 80 French and 15 American squadrons - including many British and German 2 seater squadrons.

WW1 ground vehicles complete with damage modeling.

Increased allocation and deployment of Observation balloons, and ground units - high resolution Observation balloons and skins, with crew.

Crashed aircraft are now rendered as such - no longer a simple crater decal.

Well over 3000 (yes THREE THOUSAND !) high quality fully researched aircraft textures