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Old 12-18-17, 12:16 PM   #3196
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Finally Democrats there's some actual Trump /Russia collusion for you to get unhinged about!
I'd be interested to know how many democrats are lining their pockets and colluding with Ukraine? When Trump announced his desire for closer ties to Russia. Then listening to the news and hearing all the accusations about him and Russia. Its readily apparent to me it upset certain people with pro-Ukrainian business interests to no end.

And no, I'm not taking sides, Its just that I do think their are two sides to every story.
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Old 02-09-18, 08:00 AM   #3197
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Islamic State duo from UK 'should face trial after seizure'.

Alexanda Kotey, and El Shafee Elsheikh were captured by Syrian Kurdish forces.

They were two of the four British IS members widely known as "the Beatles".

Kotey and Elsheikh were the last two of "the Beatles" still at large. They and Mohammed Emwazi and Aine Davis had gained that nickname because of their British accents.

Kotey, from west London, was a guard for the execution cell. The US State Department says he took part in the torture of hostages and also acted as a recruiter for IS

Elsheikh "earned a reputation for waterboarding, mock executions, and crucifixions" while serving as the cell's guard, the US state department says.

Both men are designated terrorists by the US, which says they have used "exceptionally cruel torture methods."

They both worked with the cell's alleged ring-leader, Mohammed Emwazi. Dubbed Jihadi John, he was the masked militant from west London who featured in gruesome IS videos, taunting Western powers before beheading hostages.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43003248

Put them down just as you would a sick animal.
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Old 03-31-18, 04:56 AM   #3198
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Two Britons accused of being Islamic State members have complained they will not get a fair trial because the UK government has stripped them of their citizenship.

Alexanda Kotey and El Shafee Elsheikh, from west London, were captured in Syria in January.

They are accused of being the last two members of an IS foursome dubbed 'the Beatles' because of their UK accents.

The pair also said the murder of IS hostages was "regrettable".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43601925

I think it's "regrettable" they still have the ability to breathe fresh air
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Old 05-29-18, 05:49 AM   #3199
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This could well turn out to be another terrorism related incident.

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A man has shot dead two police officers and a nearby driver in the eastern Belgian city of Liège.

The gunman took a female cleaner hostage at a school before being killed by police. Two other police officers were also injured.

The man's motive is not yet clear but terror prosecutors are looking after the case.

Police sources quoted in local media said the man was heard shouting "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest" in Arabic).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44289404
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Old 05-29-18, 07:46 AM   #3200
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This could well turn out to be another terrorism related incident.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44289404
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Old 05-29-18, 04:35 PM   #3201
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Just another days in the jihad...

Careful with those right of center jokes, somebody might track you down and put YOU in jail.
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Old 05-30-18, 01:59 AM   #3202
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Put them down just as you would a sick animal.
Of course of course, with those mock executions and torturing they would have better fitted in the regular army, like e.g. in Abu Ghraib.
People are animals, everywhere.
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Old 05-30-18, 04:47 AM   #3204
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Of course of course, with those mock executions and torturing they would have better fitted in the regular army, like e.g. in Abu Ghraib.
People are animals, everywhere.
The one side sees these things as violations of their rules, and sanctions them. The other side sees these things as their wanted intention, and encourages them.


The one side accepts a certain ammount of collateral damages, and goes long ways - too long ways, for my taste - to avoid them. The other side makes a maximization of collateral damages the declared mission objective.


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The man who shot dead two police officers and a civilian in the Belgian city of Liège had killed someone the night before the attacks, the country's interior minister says.

Jan Jambon said the gunman, named as Benjamin Herman, had murdered a man - a former prisoner - he met while in jail.

Prosecutors say they are treating the attacks as "terrorist murder".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44299952
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Old 05-30-18, 07:44 AM   #3206
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Unfortunately all sides use the same tactics.
Remember Nelson Mandela also was a "terrorist", for England.

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The one side accepts a certain ammount of collateral damages, and goes long ways - too long ways, for my taste - to avoid them. [...] .
I know what you mean, but you are naive if you think our "good" side does not have those tiled cellars with its special tools, and uses any means. Think of those CIA planes to Poland and elsewhere, so the holy US ground is not being poisoned when torturing.

I guess torturing in 'export' countries solves those "ethical questions", or even more important: evade possible local law suits. Trump himself has again said that he supports torture, and it is stilll being done, not only in Guantanamo.
No, the US is not the only one of course. I would try to steer clear from e.g. Turkish or Israeli prison camps as well.

Certain people with certain mindsets will always find their way into those special 'appointments', all over the world.
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Unfortunately all sides use the same tactics.
Remember Nelson Mandela also was a "terrorist", for England.



I know what you mean, but you are naive if you think our "good" side does not have those tiled cellars with its special tools, and uses any means. Think of those CIA planes to Poland and elsewhere, so the holy US ground is not being poisoned when torturing.

I guess torturing in 'export' countries solves those "ethical questions", or even more important: evade possible local law suits. Trump himself has again said that he supports torture, and it is stilll being done, not only in Guantanamo.
No, the US is not the only one of course. I would try to steer clear from e.g. Turkish or Israeli prison camps as well.

Certain people with certain mindsets will always find their way into those special 'appointments', all over the world.
And still, what is intention and mission objective for the one, is a breaking of rules and and exception from the rule that gets sanctioned by legal consequences for the other. You still compare what is not to be compared.
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An Islamic State supporter who called for jihadis to attack Prince George has admitted a string of terror charges.

Husnain Rashid, 32, of Leonard Street in Nelson, Lancashire, brought his trial at Woolwich Crown Court to a halt with a dramatic change of plea.

Nearly two weeks into his trial Rashid was re-indicted and pleaded guilty to three counts of engaging in conduct in preparation of terrorist acts.

He also admitted one count of encouraging terrorism.

Rashid will be sentenced on 28 June at the same court for the offences spanning from October 2016 to April this year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-44313868

Well, that's one less oxygen thief walking the streets of the UK.
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BERLIN (AP) — German authorities have thwarted a plot by a Tunisian man who created the deadly toxin ricin using castor bean seeds and planned to use the poison in an Islamic extremist attack in Germany, federal prosecutors said Thursday. Sief Allah H., whose last name wasn’t given in line with German privacy laws, was taken into custody Tuesday during a raid on his apartment in Cologne. The 29-year-old was formally arrested Wednesday after a judge reviewed the evidence. Authorities are still investigating exactly how the suspect planned to use the toxin, but said he was working on a “biological weapon” attack in Germany.

...He also would not comment on a report in the top-selling Bild newspaper that American intelligence tipped off German investigators after they detected the suspect’s online activity buying the seeds to make ricin.
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JAKARTA, Indonesia — Aman Abdurrahman, a leading Islamic State recruiter and ideologue in Indonesia, was found guilty and sentenced to death on Friday on charges that he incited five deadly attacks in the country while he was in prison on an earlier terrorism conviction.
The five-judge panel ruled that Mr. Aman, although he played no operational role, still shared responsibility for the armed attacks in 2016 and 2017, which killed nine people and wounded dozens more. Eight of his followers who staged the attacks also died.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/22/w...durrahman.html


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