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Old 06-21-07, 02:53 PM   #1
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IL-2 1946 Question

I'm planning on buying it off ebay in a week or two, but when I read reviews, it said it was very hard to play without a joystick. I do not have a joystick and don't particularly want to get one. Do I need to get a joystick to play the game with at least mild sucess?
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Old 06-21-07, 03:44 PM   #2
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If you want to play any flight sim you need joystick. I have a Saitek Cyborg Evo. A very good stick that doesn't cost too much.

If you try to play IL-2 without one you wno't get very far at all.
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Old 06-21-07, 03:53 PM   #3
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Playing a Flight sim without a joystick is like driving a car without the steering wheel.

a normal joystick is the minimal requirement
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Old 06-21-07, 04:17 PM   #4
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Joystick is a must for 1946. Belive me. You won't survive for long with just the keyboard.

I've had one for many years now. It's a good one, but for some reason or another the planes (most notably in 1946) are banking to the right all the time, so you have to keep the stick steady with your hand all the time......
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If you really don't want a joystick, you might - just possibly - get away with playing it with a 'playstation-style' joypad, but flight sims without a stick are not easy. Certainly not impossible to play, but you'd be making life uneccessarily difficult for yourself.

The reason a real aircraft has a joystick in it, is because that's the easiest way to control the thing, and if it were possible to fly a plane as well with a mouse or a keyboard, you could be damn sure Airbus would have tried it in real life!

Bite the bullet and get a stick.

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
If you want to play any flight sim you need joystick. I have a Saitek Cyborg Evo. A very good stick that doesn't cost too much.

If you try to play IL-2 without one you wno't get very far at all.
U got the same joystick I have!
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Old 06-21-07, 05:50 PM   #7
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There are many Sim games that don't need a joystick.

Imho Flightsims just ain't one.
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Old 06-21-07, 07:21 PM   #8
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If you want to play any flight sim you need joystick. I have a Saitek Cyborg Evo. A very good stick that doesn't cost too much.

If you try to play IL-2 without one you wno't get very far at all.
Ya, I think I need one. I tried the IL-2 demo and I got nothing done. But I can't seem to find the joystick you mentioned on bestbuy or futureshop website. Ebay only has one that ships to canada. All the way from the UK. Does anyone know any good online stores I can buy the joystick at that ships to Canada (Preferably not wireless)?
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Old 06-21-07, 09:06 PM   #9
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Which one is better?

Actually I just saw CFS 3 and might want to get that instead. I read a review on both IL-2 and CFS and they said IL-2 was less approachable than CFS. I have never played dedicated flight sims and want to know which one would be reccommended for me?
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I found a Logitech 3D PRO Extreme Joystick at Best Buy for $108 and CFS3 for 20. I'm most likely going to buy CFS3, so, everything sort of fell into place. But I'm still not 100% sure which game to buy.
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Old 06-22-07, 01:03 AM   #11
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Don't buy Logitech. they crap out very quickly. The Saitek is a solid performer. Also IL-2 is approachable. I can't speak for CFS3 as I don't have it.

Try amazon.com, saw a couple there.
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Old 06-28-07, 09:55 AM   #12
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I found a Logitech 3D PRO Extreme Joystick at Best Buy for $108
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!

I got mine for 25€ from the local store! That sounds like an rip off!

What comes to getting either CFS3 or IL2, I'd say get the IL2. Over 300 modeled planes with close to 200 as flyable. Also, the engine, graphics and the overall feel is much better in IL2 than in CFS, IMO.
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