Jumping on the new joystick bandwagon...

Weiss Pinguin · 05-05-10, 11:01 AM

As the title says, I'm looking for a new joystick to replace my aging M$ Sidewinder, and I'm wondering what you all's recommendations are.

I'm not looking for a new HOTAS set, just something as sturdy as possible, and with a twisty rudder. Buttons and sliders are also okay.

I've heard good things about the Saitek AV8R, but I've never actually seen it in person, and if it feels anything like the X52's stick, I may just pass over it.

But aside from that I have no real preference for one company over another, except for maybe Logitech. (After several years of hearing all sorts of stuff about their reliability, I'd rather not take my chances)

Dowly · 05-05-10, 02:18 PM

I'm happy with my Saitek EVO Cyborg. Not a "complicated" joystick with different presets or anything, but gots lots of buttons and it's pretty sturdy.

EDIT: Ow right, should propably mention that I broke the primary trigger off, but that's prolly because at times I squeeze a tad too hard.

And hell, you got enough thumb buttons (5) to use just them if the primary gets busted.

SEC

If you're planning on buying the AV8R, just take note that the throttle is in front of the base instead of back as usual. From a personal POV, I find this quite idiotic simply because you have take your hand off the throttle or the stick to press the buttons on the rear end of the base. Whereas with the afore mentioned Saitek (or any other joystick that has buttons on the side/back of the base and throttle there too), you can keep your thumb on the throttle and use the rest of the fingers to press the buttons on the sides of the base.

AV8R

Weiss Pinguin · 05-05-10, 03:20 PM

The EVO Cyborg's the one that comes with the adjustable button set and whatnot, right? What's the base like on it? (Light/heavy) Personally, I hate when the joystick is so light that the entire thing jerks around every time I pull on it. (

)

Also, I plan on using the joystick with the X52 throttle, so any sliders/throttles that come with said joystick will just be assigned to flaps or prop pitch or whatever other function I have left over.

Edit: also also, anyone have any experience with Thrustmaster's T.1600000000000000m? From what I've read the 3D Hall Effect magnetic technobabble sensors are supposed to be pretty sweet, but then again I can't find any reviews from a flight sim website.

Dowly · 05-05-10, 04:16 PM

Yes, the thumb buttons on the stick can be tilted and moved slightly to suit your hand, also the hand rest can be switched to the other side if you're left handed.

The base isn't very heavy, but the size and the shape of it makes it quite hard to 'tip over' (As in, if you use that kind of force that is needed to tip it considerably, you might want to have few joysticks in spare

).

Weiss Pinguin · 05-05-10, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

The base isn't very heavy, but the size and the shape of it makes it quite hard to 'tip over' (As in, if you use that kind of force that is needed to tip it considerably, you might want to have few joysticks in spare

).

I might have to check it out then

FIREWALL · 05-05-10, 09:46 PM

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jwilliams · 05-06-10, 03:42 AM

Yes I also have to recommend the Saitek EVO Cyborg. I've had mine for 5 years now and have not had a single problem. Works great.

HunterICX · 05-06-10, 03:58 AM

Using the Saitek Cyborg Evo Force here too, great stick.

HunterICX

Weiss Pinguin · 05-06-10, 03:20 PM

Seems the general consensus is to stay as far away from the Cyborg as possible

Anyone know anything about the Cyborg X? Twin throttles and about as many buttons, also it's a shiny black

Dowly · 05-06-10, 03:44 PM

If I'm not badly mistaken the Cyborg X comes in two parts, the base and the stick. Always a bad idea and heigthens the risk of it breaking.

Weiss Pinguin · 05-06-10, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

If I'm not badly mistaken the Cyborg X comes in two parts, the base and the stick. Always a bad idea and heigthens the risk of it breaking.

Yeah, that's the only thing I have a problem with, the detachable stick. Bah, I need to get to a store and see these sticks up close.

05-05-10, 11:01 AM	#1
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Jumping on the new joystick bandwagon... As the title says, I'm looking for a new joystick to replace my aging M$ Sidewinder, and I'm wondering what you all's recommendations are. I'm not looking for a new HOTAS set, just something as sturdy as possible, and with a twisty rudder. Buttons and sliders are also okay. I've heard good things about the Saitek AV8R, but I've never actually seen it in person, and if it feels anything like the X52's stick, I may just pass over it. But aside from that I have no real preference for one company over another, except for maybe Logitech. (After several years of hearing all sorts of stuff about their reliability, I'd rather not take my chances) __________________

05-05-10, 03:20 PM	#3
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	The EVO Cyborg's the one that comes with the adjustable button set and whatnot, right? What's the base like on it? (Light/heavy) Personally, I hate when the joystick is so light that the entire thing jerks around every time I pull on it. () Also, I plan on using the joystick with the X52 throttle, so any sliders/throttles that come with said joystick will just be assigned to flaps or prop pitch or whatever other function I have left over. Edit: also also, anyone have any experience with Thrustmaster's T.1600000000000000m? From what I've read the 3D Hall Effect magnetic technobabble sensors are supposed to be pretty sweet, but then again I can't find any reviews from a flight sim website. __________________ Last edited by Weiss Pinguin; 05-05-10 at 03:30 PM.

05-05-10, 09:46 PM	#6
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B001CXYMFS http://flightsimulatorxmissions.com/...iewtopic&t=998 __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

05-06-10, 03:42 AM	#7
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Yes I also have to recommend the Saitek EVO Cyborg. I've had mine for 5 years now and have not had a single problem. Works great. __________________ Windows 7, 64bit. Phenom II 965BE (OC 4cores @ 3.8 Ghz). Radeon HD4870 (1gb gddr5). 6gb Ram.

05-06-10, 03:58 AM	#8
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,749 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Using the Saitek Cyborg Evo Force here too, great stick. HunterICX __________________

05-05-10, 02:18 PM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I'm happy with my Saitek EVO Cyborg. Not a "complicated" joystick with different presets or anything, but gots lots of buttons and it's pretty sturdy. EDIT: Ow right, should propably mention that I broke the primary trigger off, but that's prolly because at times I squeeze a tad too hard. And hell, you got enough thumb buttons (5) to use just them if the primary gets busted. SEC If you're planning on buying the AV8R, just take note that the throttle is in front of the base instead of back as usual. From a personal POV, I find this quite idiotic simply because you have take your hand off the throttle or the stick to press the buttons on the rear end of the base. Whereas with the afore mentioned Saitek (or any other joystick that has buttons on the side/back of the base and throttle there too), you can keep your thumb on the throttle and use the rest of the fingers to press the buttons on the sides of the base. AV8R

05-05-10, 04:16 PM	#4
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yes, the thumb buttons on the stick can be tilted and moved slightly to suit your hand, also the hand rest can be switched to the other side if you're left handed. The base isn't very heavy, but the size and the shape of it makes it quite hard to 'tip over' (As in, if you use that kind of force that is needed to tip it considerably, you might want to have few joysticks in spare ).

05-06-10, 03:20 PM	#9
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Seems the general consensus is to stay as far away from the Cyborg as possible Anyone know anything about the Cyborg X? Twin throttles and about as many buttons, also it's a shiny black __________________

05-06-10, 03:44 PM	#10
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	If I'm not badly mistaken the Cyborg X comes in two parts, the base and the stick. Always a bad idea and heigthens the risk of it breaking.