Depth Charge Attack Indicator Mod?

MADLOU · 09-06-16, 01:43 AM

Anyone tried to make a depth charge attack indicator for this sim? Its my understanding this device was developed in 1944 and used in U.S. fleet boats.

Rockin Robbins · 09-06-16, 10:44 AM

I'm trying to buy a vowel here and can't find one for sale. Can you give us a link so we can find out exactly what the device was and how it worked?

Subnuts · 09-06-16, 10:55 AM

Found a little bit about the Depth Charge Direction Indicator on Google, but not a whole lot.

http://www.maritime.org/tech/radiocat/dcdi.htm

http://www.maritime.org/wish/dcdi.htm

https://www.google.com/patents/US2680238 (US Patent from 1946, so not the version actually used late in the war)

https://archive.hnsa.org/doc/ecat/cat-1419.htm

max-peck · 09-06-16, 01:09 PM

Very interesting

I had absolutely no idea such a thing existed

Rockin Robbins · 09-07-16, 11:53 AM

Absolutely fascinating. Since this isn't even close to anything for which the game generates data, I can't see how it could be implemented. Mods have to use some game input in order to work.

Wow! What a find!

MADLOU · 09-07-16, 01:04 PM

I know less than nothing about modding but what about the fact that in external view, during depth charge attacks, there is a graphical representation of where the exploding depth charges are in relation to the sub? I take it there is no data generated or causing that?

Jeff-Groves · 09-07-16, 01:29 PM

Data is generated for the graphical engine to present it yes.
There is no easy way to grab that data and recreate the DCDI actions though.

propbeanie · 09-07-16, 02:24 PM

How did they do the "depth charges in the water!" in the SSI Silent Hunter v1? It was in there, baked in the cake already?

Subnuts · 09-07-16, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

How did they do the "depth charges in the water!" in the SSI Silent Hunter v1? It was in there, baked in the cake already?

You'd hear a pretty obvious splash when the DCs were dropped, the volume of which depended on how far away the DD was from you. No vocal report, however.

max-peck · 09-07-16, 05:03 PM

Also I remember this from SH3 - which I still have installed

Whenever DDs drop depthcharge, your sound guy would report 'Wasserbombe' vocally

He would not however tell you where they were in relation to your sub

But it would at least give you some idea of what was going on outside your sub - very important if you are playing with no external cams

Once we got to SH4 the relationship seemed to be broken - so playing SH4 you got no warning from the sound guy

Ducimus figured this out, and fixed a workaround

He made the depth charge spash sound so much louder, that you would be bound to hear it from your submerged sub, if you were paying attention

Still didn't tell you where the attack was coming from though

You were paying attention to where all those destroyers were, weren't you???

Jeff-Groves · 09-07-16, 05:43 PM

Some of the features added to SH4 broke features from SH3.
if you were there from SH1 through SH5?
You'd see so much lost that could have been used to create a killer version!

propbeanie · 09-07-16, 05:52 PM

No "easy" way... Jeff-Groves has his thinking cap on...

09-06-16, 01:43 AM	#1
MADLOU Gunner Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 92 Downloads: 1208 Uploads: 0	Depth Charge Attack Indicator Mod? Anyone tried to make a depth charge attack indicator for this sim? Its my understanding this device was developed in 1944 and used in U.S. fleet boats.

09-06-16, 10:44 AM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I'm trying to buy a vowel here and can't find one for sale. Can you give us a link so we can find out exactly what the device was and how it worked? __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-06-16, 10:55 AM	#3
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Found a little bit about the Depth Charge Direction Indicator on Google, but not a whole lot. http://www.maritime.org/tech/radiocat/dcdi.htm http://www.maritime.org/wish/dcdi.htm https://www.google.com/patents/US2680238 (US Patent from 1946, so not the version actually used late in the war) https://archive.hnsa.org/doc/ecat/cat-1419.htm __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

09-06-16, 01:09 PM	#4
max-peck Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK Posts: 752 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 0	Very interesting I had absolutely no idea such a thing existed __________________ -------------------------------------------------- Authority should derive from the consent of the governed, not from the threat of force If the only tool you have is a hammer, pretty soon everything starts to look like a nail FOTRS Ultimate http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=226270 The future of SH4 - coming to a PC near you soon

09-07-16, 11:53 AM	#5
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Absolutely fascinating. Since this isn't even close to anything for which the game generates data, I can't see how it could be implemented. Mods have to use some game input in order to work. Wow! What a find! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-07-16, 01:04 PM	#6
MADLOU Gunner Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 92 Downloads: 1208 Uploads: 0	I know less than nothing about modding but what about the fact that in external view, during depth charge attacks, there is a graphical representation of where the exploding depth charges are in relation to the sub? I take it there is no data generated or causing that?

09-07-16, 01:29 PM	#7
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Data is generated for the graphical engine to present it yes. There is no easy way to grab that data and recreate the DCDI actions though. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

09-07-16, 02:24 PM	#8
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	How did they do the "depth charges in the water!" in the SSI Silent Hunter v1? It was in there, baked in the cake already? __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

09-07-16, 05:03 PM	#10
max-peck Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK Posts: 752 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 0	Also I remember this from SH3 - which I still have installed Whenever DDs drop depthcharge, your sound guy would report 'Wasserbombe' vocally He would not however tell you where they were in relation to your sub But it would at least give you some idea of what was going on outside your sub - very important if you are playing with no external cams Once we got to SH4 the relationship seemed to be broken - so playing SH4 you got no warning from the sound guy Ducimus figured this out, and fixed a workaround He made the depth charge spash sound so much louder, that you would be bound to hear it from your submerged sub, if you were paying attention Still didn't tell you where the attack was coming from though You were paying attention to where all those destroyers were, weren't you??? __________________ -------------------------------------------------- Authority should derive from the consent of the governed, not from the threat of force If the only tool you have is a hammer, pretty soon everything starts to look like a nail FOTRS Ultimate http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=226270 The future of SH4 - coming to a PC near you soon

09-07-16, 05:43 PM	#11
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Some of the features added to SH4 broke features from SH3. if you were there from SH1 through SH5? You'd see so much lost that could have been used to create a killer version! __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

09-07-16, 05:52 PM	#12
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	No "easy" way... Jeff-Groves has his thinking cap on... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna