Sub school issue

bstanko6 · 02-11-19, 12:24 AM

Just got SH4. In pretty good manual targeting. I’m at 100% realism. In sub school torpedo attack, I bring up the rec manual to ID the cruiser. The book has everything but ship length in it! How do calc speed???

It’s vanilla SH4

Fifi · 02-11-19, 02:36 AM

That’s SH4!

To get boat speed, or you use the TDC speed calculator, or if map contacts on, you use the 3 minutes 15 chrono calculation...last you can set a visual approximation!
Asking your sonar man, he can give you an idea of speed (slow/medium/fast)

Knowing you don’t use the map contacts...choice is quick done

Unfortunately, US sub didn’t have U-Jagd chrono

I too, would like to see ships length in ID book...
It’s not only in vanilla, but mods too.

bstanko6 · 02-11-19, 02:39 AM

Really. That is ridiculous. So American skippers had to guess each time?

In the school the cruiser is like right in front of my boat! No time to play around. Without info...

Fifi · 02-11-19, 02:45 AM

You spot that cruiser... enter distance then AOB...after few time re-enter distance and click the speed button...it should give you 9 knots if measurements are correct

Don’t Forget to click red button to make TDC on...

That’s the way it works in SH4...

bstanko6 · 02-11-19, 03:31 AM

Ok thanks

bstanko6 · 02-11-19, 03:34 AM

This is wat different from a Uboat tdc

Fifi · 02-11-19, 04:35 AM

On side note, in SH3 or SH5, it’s quite easy to set right AOB just visually by the TDC ship shape drawn on the TDC in regard of what you see in periscope.
I usually got very good results.
I proceeded same way in SH4, but my AOB is not that accurate as in SH3/SH5

The ship shape drawn on TDC looks like the boat is coming more toward me than it is in reality...so best is to set AOB when ship is pretty close to 90°. It’s easier and more accurate. At least to me...

(Sorry for bad explanation, i’m Not English native)

Vox165 · 02-11-19, 08:51 AM

I came from SH3 and expected ship lengths in the rec -book . It should have been included. However, In stock game the ship lengths in meters, are in the original print or online manual.

The OTC mod among its many other improvements adds lengths as feet and meters to the recognition manual

I played vanilla for a while then tried: Ralles RealModSoup for TMO_RSRDC_OTC which i have been very happy with . Basically this is three of the most popular mods blended together.

02-11-19, 12:24 AM	#1
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,122 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	Sub school issue Just got SH4. In pretty good manual targeting. I’m at 100% realism. In sub school torpedo attack, I bring up the rec manual to ID the cruiser. The book has everything but ship length in it! How do calc speed??? It’s vanilla SH4

02-11-19, 02:36 AM	#2
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,717 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 0	That’s SH4! To get boat speed, or you use the TDC speed calculator, or if map contacts on, you use the 3 minutes 15 chrono calculation...last you can set a visual approximation! Asking your sonar man, he can give you an idea of speed (slow/medium/fast) Knowing you don’t use the map contacts...choice is quick done Unfortunately, US sub didn’t have U-Jagd chrono I too, would like to see ships length in ID book... It’s not only in vanilla, but mods too. __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/oirl8...ION_V5.7z/file

02-11-19, 02:45 AM	#4
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,717 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 0	You spot that cruiser... enter distance then AOB...after few time re-enter distance and click the speed button...it should give you 9 knots if measurements are correct Don’t Forget to click red button to make TDC on... That’s the way it works in SH4... __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/oirl8...ION_V5.7z/file

02-11-19, 04:35 AM	#7
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,717 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 0	On side note, in SH3 or SH5, it’s quite easy to set right AOB just visually by the TDC ship shape drawn on the TDC in regard of what you see in periscope. I usually got very good results. I proceeded same way in SH4, but my AOB is not that accurate as in SH3/SH5 The ship shape drawn on TDC looks like the boat is coming more toward me than it is in reality...so best is to set AOB when ship is pretty close to 90°. It’s easier and more accurate. At least to me... (Sorry for bad explanation, i’m Not English native) __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/oirl8...ION_V5.7z/file

02-11-19, 08:51 AM	#8
Vox165 Soundman Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Penns Woods Posts: 149 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 0	I came from SH3 and expected ship lengths in the rec -book . It should have been included. However, In stock game the ship lengths in meters, are in the original print or online manual. The OTC mod among its many other improvements adds lengths as feet and meters to the recognition manual I played vanilla for a while then tried: Ralles RealModSoup for TMO_RSRDC_OTC which i have been very happy with . Basically this is three of the most popular mods blended together. Last edited by Vox165; 02-11-19 at 09:56 AM.

02-11-19, 02:39 AM	#3
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,122 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	Really. That is ridiculous. So American skippers had to guess each time? In the school the cruiser is like right in front of my boat! No time to play around. Without info...

02-11-19, 03:31 AM	#5
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,122 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	Ok thanks

02-11-19, 03:34 AM	#6
bstanko6 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Murwik Naval Academy Posts: 2,122 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 13	This is wat different from a Uboat tdc

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