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Old 07-18-2009, 03:32 PM   #16
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I'm working on the dat now.
I've started with an SH3 dat to get the model imported
and setup.

Once that is done and tested I'll run it through a
conversion program.
Then do the Normal and occlusion work.

The first thing to get perfect is the fireing of
the external torpedos.

I used a modified type IIa to test the idea.
It worked.

So now I'll do the Alpha model and dat
so I can FRAP the fireing of those torps.

And before anyone thinks I'm keeping the way to fire them
to myself?

I told Keltos1 and Mikhayl how I did it.
I just asked that they allow me to film it and post
the video before they go nuts with the idea.
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Old 07-19-2009, 06:34 PM   #17
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good to hear

In the meantime I commenced work on the biber. As of now the hull is largely finished so I`ll start working on the `conning tower'. I`ll import it into SH4 right afterwards as that should take me only about 30 minutes.
I hope to show you the first screenshots in a few days.

Oh and Kloef, you can use any 3d modeling software you like. Personally I use the freeware program misfit model 3d.
If you`d like to help out with modeling the biber, stuur maar een PM`etje
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Old 07-19-2009, 06:41 PM   #18
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You doing the Biber or Seehund?
I have a bunch of pictures of the Biber interior also.
But if someone is near one?
More pictures would be fantastic.
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Old 07-19-2009, 07:26 PM   #19
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the biber, since you are doing the seehund, if I understand correctly.
As you can see in the picture I posted a few posts back I was close to having a seehund, but the model I made would have needed major remodeling so I kind of gave it up. The biber has a much simpler design and is thus much easier to model (I`m not really a 3d modeler myself, more like a dat file editing guy).

pictures of the biber interior (& exterior) would be highly appreciated as I only got one from wikipedia.
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Old 07-19-2009, 07:34 PM   #20
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No I have the Biber exterior model nearly completed.
I'm working on importing and setting it all up now.
I have run it in Game (SH3) with a placer Skin.
I've nearly finished the external torps stuff also.

I'll pack up the interior images I have and provide a link.
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:19 AM   #21
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Some more info:

It seems there were 3 different aft designs regarding propulsion,but i can only find pictures on 2 types,so we must assume this was the standard type mostly build..

The more i look at real pictures the more i see its compactness,its not as stretched as you might think,they look very sleek in the water,therefore your model isnt that bad,it needs some more smoothing and an interior,and there is another problem,the launching of torpedos and mission!

I found this site with alot of good pictures:

http://www.one35th.com/seehund/sh_museum.htm
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:30 AM   #22
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Launching the torpedos has already been solved.


And scripting missions should be no worse then any other
mission work.
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:34 AM   #23
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I will do some research into the actual missions they performed,maybe i can find some interesting ones for the game.



Two types i found schematics for,Type 227 was build the most.You can also see the different aft designs,the type 127 has aft dive planes too.

But they look like 2 totally different designs with some simularities,i'm kinda puzzled about it and intrigued!The model is a mixed one..






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Old 07-20-2009, 03:56 PM   #24
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No I have the Biber exterior model nearly completed.
lol, me thinking all the time you were working on the seehund.
If the interior images you have show enough of the interior I could make a model out of it.
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Two types i found schematics for,Type 227 was build the most.
Are you sure? AFAIK the 127 was used most. one35th.com seems to agree:
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Development of the closed cycle Seehund was carried out by Ingenioeurburo Gluckauf in Blankenburg and was given the designation Type 227. Contracts for prototypes were awarded to Germaniawerft in Kiel and to Schichau at Elbing and by May 1945 a contract for three operational model (U-5188 to U-5190) had been awarded to Germeniawerft. These models would have used the standard Seehund power plant converted to closed cycle operation on the grounds the Daimler-Benz engines were not available in any quantity. Tests showed that the Bussing engine could be successfully converted by the world ended before the craft could go into production.
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Old 07-20-2009, 04:12 PM   #25
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I'll pack up the pictures and post a link tonite.
Yard needs mowed and then some other files for someone else
need uploaded and a GWX DVD burned and readied for mailing.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:17 AM   #26
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Quote:
Are you sure? AFAIK the 127 was used most. one35th.com seems to agree:
You are right,my mistake.

The Type XXVIIA was in fact the 'Hecht'.53 were build

Type XXVIIB was the final version.

Then came the Type XXVIIB5,that was the 'Seehund', 285 were build.

The types together are known as the type XXVII submarines.
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1st few pics of the interior:



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Old 07-23-2009, 04:37 AM   #28
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Can't wait!
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Old 07-25-2009, 08:41 AM   #29
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Instrument panel is now pretty much done.

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Old 07-25-2009, 10:59 AM   #30
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Very nice

What software do you use?
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