US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

And very likely the opposite is true for the republican party.

The republican party panders to the rich in the north for sure ... I first noticed this when LBJ was President. Today they want close borders, they want to lower taxes (like they always do) and they talk double talk to the rich to get them to vote for them.

They are as conservative as it gets ... I would say 85% of the party are right wing conservatives.

So it finds some balance where most get something they want and give up something they want. I don't think any of of us really want it any other way.

Sounds about right.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

And very likely the opposite is true for the republican party.

The republican party panders to the rich in the north for sure ... I first noticed this when LBJ was President. Today they want close borders, they want to lower taxes (like they always do) and they talk double talk to the rich to get them to vote for them.

They are as conservative as it gets ... I would say 85% of the party are right wing conservatives.

So it finds some balance where most get something they want and give up something they want. I don't think any of of us really want it any other way.

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Sounds about right.

It does, especially the lowering taxes part. I could take some more of that!

[vienna]

A bit of a laugh...or not...











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[u crank]

Originally Posted by vienna

A bit of a laugh...or not...

That was pretty good.

[vienna]

Just thought we could use a chuckle...












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[Onkel Neal]

Nice one, Vienna

[Jimbuna]

Yep, enjoyed that

[vienna]

Chief Justice John Roberts Criticizes Trump For ‘Obama Judge’ Asylum Comment --

WASHINGTON (AP) — Chief Justice John Roberts is pushing back against President Donald Trump for his description of a judge who ruled against Trump’s migrant asylum policy as an “Obama judge.”

It’s the first time the Republican-appointed leader of the federal judiciary has offered even a hint of criticism of Trump, who has previously blasted federal judges who ruled against him.

Roberts said Wednesday the U.S. doesn’t have “Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges.” He commented in a statement released by the Supreme Court after a query by The Associated Press.

Roberts said on the day before Thanksgiving that an “independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.”

Trump may not want to irritate someone who may be in a position to rule on possible future issues regarding Trump's legal problems...











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[u crank]

Originally Posted by vienna

Chief Justice John Roberts Criticizes Trump For ‘Obama Judge’ Asylum Comment --

Once again Trump's vocabulary skills fail him.

Had he said 'Obama appointed Judge' he would have been speaking the truth.....but we all know what he was getting at.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by u crank

Once again Trump's vocabulary skills fail him.

Had he said 'Obama appointed Judge' he would have been speaking the truth.....but we all know what he was getting at.

Dang, I'm getting old; I forgot to post the link to the source:

Chief Justice John Roberts Criticizes Trump For ‘Obama Judge’ Asylum Comment --

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0eb6d930af693

The president complained that his opponents file their lawsuits in courts that are part of the liberal-leaning 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

“Every case that gets filed in the 9th Circuit, we get beaten. And then we end up having to go to the Supreme Court, like the travel ban, and we won,” Trump said.

The president went on to say about the asylum ruling: “This was an Obama judge.”

But the initial travel ban ruling in 2017 was issued by U.S. District Judge James Robart, an appointee of President George W. Bush. Roberts also was appointed by Bush.

It should also be pointed out that the Judge who ruled against Trump's ban on CNN's Acosta was a Trump appointee. Several SCOTUS Justices, as well other Federal Judges, have commented on how, once they were sworn in, donned the robes, and were faced with the reality of the serious, weighty, and important nature of their task, developed a whole new perspective towards their responsibilities; sometimes this reconsideration has worked to the detriment of those who appointed them in search of an 'easy vote'...












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[vienna]

Vox Populi:

Democrats won House popular vote by largest midterm margin since Watergate --

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...ergate-n938996




Must be the "Trump Effect" that accounts for this GOP success...







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[u crank]

Originally Posted by vienna

Vox Populi:

Democrats won House popular vote by largest midterm margin since Watergate --

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...ergate-n938996

Must be the "Trump Effect" that accounts for this GOP success...

5 Flaws in 'Popular-Vote-Repudiates-Trump' Argument.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...nt_138698.html

Normally, midterms feature a fairly equal number of uncontested seats on both the Democratic and Republican sides. But this year, Democrats ran unchallenged by a GOP opponent in no fewer than 40 House races. Only three Republican candidates could say the same. In other words, there wasn’t a House Republican even listed on 40 ballots, which skewed the popular vote in Democrats’ favor.

..also noted that Democrats garnered a large portion of their vote margin from districts that demographically are overwhelmingly blue, such as Florida’s 20th District (dominated by Rep. Alcee Hastings) and California’s 13th District (commanded by Rep. Barbara Lee).

And in the Senate...

Why you shouldn't care so much about the popular vote.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/polit...ote/index.html

Speaking of California, its primary system meant that two Democrats faced off on Election Day, so presumably de León's 2.8-plus-million votes are in the Democratic column, along with California winner Dianne Feinstein's more than 3.3 million votes.

[Mr Quatro]

I've learned my lesson not to trust FB anymore, but I just saw this and it peaked my interest due to Beto almost won the Senate race in Texas against Ted Cruz, but I heard Beto spent something like 78 million dollars to lose.

Should we put him on the list with Biden, Bernie and heaven forbid Hillary Clinton?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jus...a-of-beto-2020

Just like Obama, Democrats are falling for the idea of Beto 2020

Beto has gone nationwide.

With praise coming in from everyone from Beyoncé to former President Barack Obama and the Texas representative hinting at a possible run at the White House in 2020, Beto O’Rourke has become the cause célèbre among Democratic donors and activists around the country - and looks to shake up what already promises to be a crowded field of Democrats challenging President Trump.

[Cybermat47]

Perhaps the Democrats have learnt that nominating Clinton was a mistake.

I wonder how many people didn’t vote for Trump, but instead against Clinton?

[Buddahaid]

I didn't vote for either of them. Her because of what she represents, and him because he's an idiot.