Buying a Joystick

Crécy · 07-10-10, 08:49 AM

I bet there are a million threads like this but it does not hurt if there are one more

.

I'm suddenly interested in flight sims. I don't have any experience with them, expect Flight Simulator 2002 with keyboard but that does not count, right? I was planning to buy a Joystick and propably IL2 Sturmovik 1946 and later maybe a helo sim, fligh simulator x etc. I have looked for a good joystick the whole day and I have narrowed it down to two options. Logitech Wingman Attack 3, yes I know it is not very good but first of all it's reasonably cheap and I'm new to flight sims so if flight sims in the end are not for me, I don't have to realise I have bought over a hunderd euro's super duper Saitek Joystick. The second choice is Logitech extreme 3d pro. It's a little bit better than attack but also a little more expensive.

Ultimately, if I buy on of those two and I fell in love with flight sim. I'd propably invest to a better Joystick, more likely Saitek EVO cyborg. So, I'm looking for a Joystick for a reasonable prize but sufficient enough to start a career as an virtual pilot.

Schroeder · 07-10-10, 09:26 AM

You will definitely need a stick with a hat switch if you want to play Il2 (except you've got a TrckIR). A twist handle is also almost a must to enjoy the game properly (it can be done without but you will really miss it in dogfights). I've got the Cyborg Evo without FF and it has lasted for three years so far without any problem. A stick I can definitely recommend and for a very reasonable price.

Crécy · 07-10-10, 09:48 AM

You have this? http://www.cyborggaming.com/prod/v1stick.htm

I didn't find any cyborg evo sticks without FF.

Edit: Found a joystick with a reasonable prize: Saitek Cyborg X. Any recommendations for that?

Edit2: I've done a bit research and found that cyborg x is not very good. But I found another potential stick; Thrustmaster T.16000M. The prize is also reasonable to my small budget. Is it any good? I read somewhere that it only works with a handful of games.

Schroeder · 07-10-10, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crécy

You have this? http://www.cyborggaming.com/prod/v1stick.htm

I didn't find any cyborg evo sticks without FF.

Maybe they are out of production. I definitively have a Cyborg Evo without FF. Like this one:
http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/game_g..._evo/index.htm

Crécy · 07-10-10, 01:40 PM

Yes they have to be out of production.

I believe I have to invest to Saitek Cyborg Evo with FF. I have read so many recommendations on this forum that it have to be good and the most important thing; I found it in a reasonable prize

. Atleast I don't have to buy a new, better stick as I eventually would have to if I had bought a cheap stick. Or I'll buy that Thrustmaster T.16000M if someone recommends it.

Crécy · 07-10-10, 05:03 PM

I have a pedals from a driving wheel and I was just wondering, do they work in a flight sims as well?

HunterICX · 07-11-10, 08:03 AM

I got the Saitek Cyborg Evo with FF, definitively a good stick for the price.

The Cyborg Evo really have what you seek in a stick, everything is adjustable.
it's both for left & right handed people, and it has 2 wheels where you can elevate a panel of 3-buttons that are right in front of you for you thumb's acces and one wheel that leans the head left or right.

HunterICX

Schroeder · 07-11-10, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crécy

I have a pedals from a driving wheel and I was just wondering, do they work in a flight sims as well?

I tried that but can't recommend it. You can't rest your feet on steering wheel pedals and therefore you will have to hold them over them all the time. Very tiresome and uncomfortable.

Dowly · 07-11-10, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

I got the Saitek Cyborg Evo with FF, definitively a good stick for the price.

The Cyborg Evo really have what you seek in a stick, everything is adjustable.
it's both for left & right handed people, and it has 2 wheels where you can elevate a panel of 3-buttons that are right in front of you for you thumb's acces and one wheel that leans the head left or right.

HunterICX

What he said.

Also, I might add that FF is something you definitely want. It's not there just for the 'show', but to give you much more accurate input off your plane.

Crécy · 07-11-10, 02:05 PM

Thanks, you got me convinced! I actually ordered Cyborg EVO this morning

. Now starts a painful 1-2 week waiting

. I have to order IL2 1946 so it will be ready and waiting when the stick finally arrives.

Can I play Black Shark without pedals? I'm drooling that game now

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Raptor1 · 07-11-10, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crécy

Can I play Black Shark without pedals? I'm drooling that game now

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I play it without pedals (Whether I'm too good at it is arguable), so it can be done.

Schroeder · 07-11-10, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crécy

Can I play Black Shark without pedals? I'm drooling that game now

.

The evo comes with a twist handle which is a substitute for pedals. So you should have no problems.

Crécy · 07-12-10, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor1

I play it without pedals (Whether I'm too good at it is arguable), so it can be done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

The evo comes with a twist handle which is a substitute for pedals. So you should have no problems.

Eexcellent! I can't wait that stick!

Tilasin verkkokaupasta 1-2 viikon toimitusajalla. Saas nähdä kuinka monta viikkoa menee...

Schroeder · 07-12-10, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crécy

Tilasin verkkokaupasta 1-2 viikon toimitusajalla. Saas nähdä kuinka monta viikkoa menee...

If you say so.

Raptor1 · 07-12-10, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crécy

Tilasin verkkokaupasta 1-2 viikon toimitusajalla. Saas nähdä kuinka monta viikkoa menee...

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

07-10-10, 08:49 AM	#1
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	Buying a Joystick I bet there are a million threads like this but it does not hurt if there are one more . I'm suddenly interested in flight sims. I don't have any experience with them, expect Flight Simulator 2002 with keyboard but that does not count, right? I was planning to buy a Joystick and propably IL2 Sturmovik 1946 and later maybe a helo sim, fligh simulator x etc. I have looked for a good joystick the whole day and I have narrowed it down to two options. Logitech Wingman Attack 3, yes I know it is not very good but first of all it's reasonably cheap and I'm new to flight sims so if flight sims in the end are not for me, I don't have to realise I have bought over a hunderd euro's super duper Saitek Joystick. The second choice is Logitech extreme 3d pro. It's a little bit better than attack but also a little more expensive. Ultimately, if I buy on of those two and I fell in love with flight sim. I'd propably invest to a better Joystick, more likely Saitek EVO cyborg. So, I'm looking for a Joystick for a reasonable prize but sufficient enough to start a career as an virtual pilot.

07-10-10, 09:26 AM	#2
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	You will definitely need a stick with a hat switch if you want to play Il2 (except you've got a TrckIR). A twist handle is also almost a must to enjoy the game properly (it can be done without but you will really miss it in dogfights). I've got the Cyborg Evo without FF and it has lasted for three years so far without any problem. A stick I can definitely recommend and for a very reasonable price. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

07-10-10, 09:48 AM	#3
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	You have this? http://www.cyborggaming.com/prod/v1stick.htm I didn't find any cyborg evo sticks without FF. Edit: Found a joystick with a reasonable prize: Saitek Cyborg X. Any recommendations for that? Edit2: I've done a bit research and found that cyborg x is not very good. But I found another potential stick; Thrustmaster T.16000M. The prize is also reasonable to my small budget. Is it any good? I read somewhere that it only works with a handful of games. Last edited by Crécy; 07-10-10 at 11:02 AM.

07-11-10, 08:03 AM	#7
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,749 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I got the Saitek Cyborg Evo with FF, definitively a good stick for the price. The Cyborg Evo really have what you seek in a stick, everything is adjustable. it's both for left & right handed people, and it has 2 wheels where you can elevate a panel of 3-buttons that are right in front of you for you thumb's acces and one wheel that leans the head left or right. HunterICX __________________

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07-10-10, 01:40 PM	#5
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	Yes they have to be out of production. I believe I have to invest to Saitek Cyborg Evo with FF. I have read so many recommendations on this forum that it have to be good and the most important thing; I found it in a reasonable prize . Atleast I don't have to buy a new, better stick as I eventually would have to if I had bought a cheap stick. Or I'll buy that Thrustmaster T.16000M if someone recommends it.

07-10-10, 05:03 PM	#6
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	I have a pedals from a driving wheel and I was just wondering, do they work in a flight sims as well?

07-11-10, 02:05 PM	#10
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	Thanks, you got me convinced! I actually ordered Cyborg EVO this morning . Now starts a painful 1-2 week waiting . I have to order IL2 1946 so it will be ready and waiting when the stick finally arrives. Can I play Black Shark without pedals? I'm drooling that game now .