[REL] Sub Exhaust for SH5 - Page 7

TheDarkWraith · 04-02-10, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sport02

there is no smoke when you go backwards !!

oh yes, you are right. I did forget that

We'll have to fix that.

TheDarkWraith · 04-03-10, 11:57 AM

okay so what's the general concensus? Is the exhaust trail too long? too dark?

Kromus · 04-03-10, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

okay so what's the general concensus? Is the exhaust trail too long? too dark?

I`d be happy if you could make also version with much shorter smoke. Longer smoke can stay as different version for anyone who likes it but it`s just too long for my taste. I think 2 max 3 meters would be enough. Otherwise it`s great mod

Redlance88 · 04-03-10, 02:33 PM

I also vote for a shorter version. with the engines at temp and running well it would be a subtle amount and length of smoke. now if there was a way to link amounts to engine damage, that would be even more cool. darker and thicker as the damage rate goes up.

SteelViking · 04-03-10, 03:13 PM

In my opinion the darkness/density of the smoke is spot on, but I think that shorter trails (a little over half current length) would be more realistic. Smoke from a well maintained diesel engine even the size of a u-boat's should dissipate pretty quickly.

P.S. Thank you for working on this TDW, your immense amount of effort to improve this sim is much appreciated by all.

TheDarkWraith · 04-03-10, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelViking

In my opinion the darkness/density of the smoke is spot on, but I think that shorter trails (a little over half current length) would be more realistic. Smoke from a well maintained diesel engine even the size of a u-boat's should dissipate pretty quickly.

P.S. Thank you for working on this TDW, your immense amount of effort to improve this sim is much appreciated by all.

I've been playing around with it and I think everyone is correct - the trail of smoke should be about half what is it now. Color/density I think is good because it dissipates rather quickly. I'll make another version with the shorter smoke trails (which will also help with FPS for those experiencing problems). Look for it shortly.

Kromus · 04-03-10, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I've been playing around with it and I think everyone is correct - the trail of smoke should be about half what is it now. Color/density I think is good because it dissipates rather quickly. I'll make another version with the shorter smoke trails (which will also help with FPS for those experiencing problems). Look for it shortly.

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I don`t know if you seen this between 0:25-0:28

I think its speed is about 10 knots

TheDarkWraith · 04-03-10, 05:17 PM

version 1.0.1 released. Major change was adjustment to exhaust smoke trail for all subs currently done. See post #1 for details.

tonschk · 04-03-10, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

oh yes, you are right. I did forget that

We'll have to fix that.

Thank you very much Racerboy

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Kromus · 04-03-10, 05:57 PM

Nice, thank you

Btw I noticed kinda weird thing. Since smoke direction is affected by wind direction, sometimes happens that smoke comes directly for coning tower. I don`t think watchmen like that very much

. Would it be possible to make smoke less wind dependant and more U-boat heading dependant?

Regio Sommergibile · 04-03-10, 05:58 PM

Thanks for improvements

TheDarkWraith · 04-03-10, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kromus

Nice, thank you

Btw I noticed kinda weird thing. Since smoke direction is affected by wind direction, sometimes happens that smoke comes directly for coning tower. I don`t think watchmen like that very much

. Would it be possible to make smoke less wind dependant and more U-boat heading dependant?

think about it in real life. The smoke has no choice but to go where the wind takes it.

Kromus · 04-03-10, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

think about it in real life. The smoke has no choice but to go where the wind takes it.

It should be true IF U-boat was standing still or moving very slow but when its moving its more dependant on heading of submarine (actual movement creates "counterwind"). Just look at big trucks have you ever seen smoke moving forward when truck moves forward?

I was thinking making it more dependant at higher speeds like 10+ knots. It`s kinda funny when you are heading at 18 knots, wind speed is at 1 m/s and exhaust smoke still overpass you...

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I was thinking about this, it still moves a bit left right when the steer but not forward unless they brake or slow down.

TheDarkWraith · 04-03-10, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kromus

It should be true IF U-boat was standing still or moving very slow but when its moving its more dependant on heading of submarine (actual movement creates "counterwind"). Just look at big trucks have you ever seen smoke moving forward when truck moves forward?

I was thinking making it more dependant at higher speeds like 10+ knots. It`s kinda funny when you are heading at 18 knots, wind speed is at 1 m/s and exhaust smoke still overpass you...

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I was thinking about this, it still moves a bit left right when the steer but not forward unless they brake or slow down.

oh ok, now I'm following you. Yes, I did set them up so that the wind affects them 100%.....I'll play around with this setting

There's some others I can tweak also.

Regio Sommergibile · 04-03-10, 06:52 PM

Maybe 70-30 advantage to the wind...?

04-03-10, 05:58 PM	#101
Regio Sommergibile Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: patrolling CN-69 Posts: 244 Downloads: 181 Uploads: 0	Thanks for improvements __________________

04-03-10, 06:52 PM	#105
Regio Sommergibile Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: patrolling CN-69 Posts: 244 Downloads: 181 Uploads: 0	Maybe 70-30 advantage to the wind...? __________________

04-03-10, 11:57 AM	#92
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	okay so what's the general concensus? Is the exhaust trail too long? too dark?

04-03-10, 02:33 PM	#94
Redlance88 Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 44 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 0	I also vote for a shorter version. with the engines at temp and running well it would be a subtle amount and length of smoke. now if there was a way to link amounts to engine damage, that would be even more cool. darker and thicker as the damage rate goes up.

04-03-10, 03:13 PM	#95
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	In my opinion the darkness/density of the smoke is spot on, but I think that shorter trails (a little over half current length) would be more realistic. Smoke from a well maintained diesel engine even the size of a u-boat's should dissipate pretty quickly. P.S. Thank you for working on this TDW, your immense amount of effort to improve this sim is much appreciated by all.

04-03-10, 05:17 PM	#98
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	version 1.0.1 released. Major change was adjustment to exhaust smoke trail for all subs currently done. See post #1 for details.

04-03-10, 05:57 PM	#100
Kromus Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 250 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Nice, thank you Btw I noticed kinda weird thing. Since smoke direction is affected by wind direction, sometimes happens that smoke comes directly for coning tower. I don`t think watchmen like that very much . Would it be possible to make smoke less wind dependant and more U-boat heading dependant?