Trying to beat Adolf Galland!

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

I can imagine you banging your head in the cockpit with this tune when you just landed.


HunterICX

Actually, I had Metallica's 'All nightmare long' playing on repeat. Lovely lyrics for an dogfight;

http://www.metrolyrics.com/all-night...metallica.html

WE HUUUUNT YOU DOOOWWWN WITHOUT MEEEEERRRCYYYY!!!!

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Nice AAR Dowly! Try to hit something next time! Be more aggressive!

I will I will! It's a mess when there's 100+ fighters creating a one big furball. :p

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Did I hear somebody say AI?

Oh, wait, this ain't IL-2

This is my first experience with the new 2.08 AI, it's amazing! I've seen the enemy push it's plane so it kinda 'skids' all over as he's about to lose control, I've had enemies that got surprised make a mistake and stall their planes, the list goes on.

July 11th, 1940 - 4 kills total

Sortie#1 - 0 kills

Escorted a Dornier 17 on a recon mission to Tangmere AF, I wish our 12 109s would've been allowed to strafe the AF, RAF was nowhere to be seen.

Sortie#2 - 1 kill

Another big raid against a convoy 'Whisky'. Total of 108 planes in the air against 2x12 flights of RAF fighters. We first spotted the enemy on our 2o'clock level, just over the target. I called the bandits and me & the otter flight broke off from the formation and headed to give the Tommies a nice warm greeting. The Otter leader must be a complete wacko, as he decided to take the enemy head on. I on the other hand climbed about 500m above them and as soon as the two met, I dived down and by pure luck got into the six of an Spitfire. This one had to be an experienced pilot, I was struggling to keep up with him as he exploited all the advantages the Spitfire has over an Emil. I was sure he'd go up like some of the RAF pilots tend to do, but this one just kept on turning and turning. I was starting to get worried, peeking over my shoulder all the time for his wingman. I started to get more comfortable when the radio came alive and started spitting out kill confirmations after another, the skies started to clear up around me. I stopped looking around me and concentrated on getting the Tommie to my sights, even a split-second would do. The Spit banked hard to left, dived abit, banked back to right, rolled, climbed abit just to roll and dive again. I was getting very frustrated, this' going to take forever! I cant break off and climb to get advantage, as he would be in my six in no time. Then, by pure luck, I hit him with a reflex shot as he banked yet again infront of my sights, something flew off from the spit, I'd say a rudder or one of it's stabilizers as I hit him into the tail. He rolled to his back and disappeared below me, I quickly followed and saw a huge water pillar raising up from the sea. Scratched one.

At this time, the fight was over for the Otter flight and me, having spent ammo & alot of fuel, I headed for home and let the other escorts finish the job.

[Fincuan]

Wow, BoB sounds like decent sim. You might have just given them another customer

In IL2 that would have been like this:
"I got on to the six of a Spitfire. This one had to be an experienced pilot, I was struggling to keep up with him as he exploited all the advantages the AI Spitfire has over a human controlled Emil. No overheating, no blacking out, tail warning system that kicks in at 350 meters, endless barrel rolls while diving away at the same time, no diving speed limit, negative Gs. I was starting to get worried, peeking over my shoulder all the time for his wingman. Suddenly I spotted him, keeping his position behind the leader and completely ignoring me."

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Fincuan

Wow, BoB sounds like decent sim. You might have just given them another customer

In IL2 that would have been like this:
"I got on to the six of a Spitfire. This one had to be an experienced pilot, I was struggling to keep up with him as he exploited all the advantages the AI Spitfire has over a human controlled Emil. No overheating, no blacking out, tail warning system that kicks in at 350 meters, endless barrel rolls while diving away at the same time, no diving speed limit, negative Gs. I was starting to get worried, peeking over my shoulder all the time for his wingman. Suddenly I spotted him, keeping his position behind the leader and completely ignoring me."

You forgot about beeing rammed out of the sky by one of your comrades...

Il2 really starts to suck.
Wasn't there a mod that convertef BoBII into a multiplayer game?
It seems to be much more fun than Il2 these days.

BTW how about the flight model? Is it as good as the one in Il2?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

You forgot about beeing rammed out of the sky by one of your comrades...

Il2 really starts to suck.
Wasn't there a mod that convertef BoBII into a multiplayer game?
It seems to be much more fun than Il2 these days.

BTW how about the flight model? Is it as good as the one in Il2?

@Fincuan

You certainly have to give BoBII a try!
Here's the forums:
http://www.shockwaveproductions.com/...8ffbc704f210bf

It has the best and most humane AI you've ever seen in an flightsim!

@Schroeder

With 2.08, there came a new FM, but it's still quite forgiving compared to IL2s, tho cant say which is more real as I've never flown a fighter. :p

[Fincuan]

Originally Posted by Dowly

@Fincuan

You certainly have to give BoBII a try!
Here's the forums:
http://www.shockwaveproductions.com/...8ffbc704f210bf

Yep, I checked them. As expected it has its problems just like IL2, but I'm gonna give it a try. Do you recommend buying through their site, or is there a better or cheaper way compared to their €15.66 download?

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Il2 really starts to suck.
Wasn't there a mod that convertef BoBII into a multiplayer game?
It seems to be much more fun than Il2 these days.

Never heard that something can suck today what was the same thing for 7 years.

HunterICX

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Never heard that something can suck today what was the same thing for 7 years.

HunterICX

IL2 started to suck for me the last year, when I got BOBII. Sure, it doesnt have EVERYTHING that IL2 had when I first got it, but it had few parts that it did better.

My dream is BoB:SoW + BoBII BDG team cooperation. Buddye is the lone "soldier" to continue the coding part of BoBII atm, kudos to him.

EDIT:

Oh, and IL2 has changed. 3.xx patches had better AI, the original IL2 demo had rain on windshield!

[HunterICX]

I can name more or those stuff:
IL2: Sturmovik:
Better FM for FW's
I can recall raindrops on windshield in the original

I can name some more but whats the point, I think the patching and expansions included a lot 3th party work, just look at the difference in cockpit designs. some are really nice the others seems to be simply ported over from the 3D program with the basic colouring. FM of certain aircraft have been messed too much with and so I can continue.

I tend to ignore this about IL2 for one reason, I mostly make fun of it while flying as it spoils my evening I go on a ranting rampage while my intention is to have fun with you guys.

BOBII is a victor in AI, and single player no doubt, but unfortuanly I have no much time to play Single player games.
too bad it has no MP feature

HunterICX

[PeriscopeDepth]

Although I haven't played it for a while (just not a very big WWII flight sim fan, too much of a button/tech geek), BoBII:WoV is as good as it gets for single player WWII stuff.

PD

[Oberon]

I d/led and installed the new objects addon just before I went on holiday and broke Tangmere. Thankfully I see on the Shockwave forum that there's a fix, so I will play around with it later and see what I can do.
Anyway, yous lot, don't forget we have a campaign in France to lose in IL2! I expect to see you all reporting for duty on Monday 9pm GMT sharp!