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Old 03-30-2017, 05:52 AM   #7051
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Thank you very much Gentlemen

Got it working ...sort of managed to get nearly 190k GRT sunk so far, but those crashes with the save game file are killing me literally
I ll try and find some workaround but its a big killjoy lel
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Old 04-06-2017, 05:50 PM   #7052
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Default Constant CTDs when approaching a convoy

I have allways enjoyed GWX, but the thing that allways bothered me is that (for me at least) its somehow unstable, with CTDs happening every now and then.

Recently this problem has gotten a lot worse, to the point where i can almost no longer play it.

Im currently in mid 1941, near the Gibraltar strait, and i receive a radio report of a convoy. I set course to intercept it, and the minute i get close to it, the game CTDs.

I dont have many mods, mainly Manos enviroment, HSIE patch, and MaGUI. Still i disable them one by one and try again, no luck. The game crashes predictably at the exact moment i approach the convoy.

So i delete everything, clean install of the game & GWX.
Load the save game and BAM! as soon as i approach that convoy, CTD.

Ok, maybe the save game is corrupted or something? i scrap that patrol, loaded the latest "In game after mission" save and start a new patrol.
Arround the same area as before (CG87) another report, convoy, but its not the same convoy as before, this one is going on a different direction.
Intercept course!
Can you guess what happened when i got near to it?
And same deal as before, no ammount of removing mods can fix it.
Its so consistent i can tell the EXACT time the game will CTD (00:03).

Its as if some convoy configurations are incorrect and cause the game to crash when the game spawns them in sight?

Remembering back, it seems that most my CTDs with GWX occur when convoys are nearby.

So my system is at fault maybe? video drivers, bad ram etc.?
Seems unlikely to me, since i also run another installation of SH3 in paralel, that one with NYGM-2017A, HSIE patches, MaGUI, MEPv6, and i have never had one single CTD. Not one. The game is flawless.

Its so frustrating, i really like GWX, but this constant crashing makes it just impossible for me to enjoy it.

Could it be an error in a convoy definition? maybe game is trying to load a ship that doesnt have textures for it or something?
It seems obvious to me that the problem happens when certain convoys are arround.
Any ideas of what i could do to fix this problem???

thanks
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Old 04-07-2017, 12:09 AM   #7053
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I have allways enjoyed GWX, but the thing that allways bothered me is that (for me at least) its somehow unstable, with CTDs happening every now and then.

Recently this problem has gotten a lot worse, to the point where i can almost no longer play it.

Im currently in mid 1941, near the Gibraltar strait, and i receive a radio report of a convoy. I set course to intercept it, and the minute i get close to it, the game CTDs.

I dont have many mods, mainly Manos enviroment, HSIE patch, and MaGUI. Still i disable them one by one and try again, no luck. The game crashes predictably at the exact moment i approach the convoy.

So i delete everything, clean install of the game & GWX.
Load the save game and BAM! as soon as i approach that convoy, CTD.

Ok, maybe the save game is corrupted or something? i scrap that patrol, loaded the latest "In game after mission" save and start a new patrol.
Arround the same area as before (CG87) another report, convoy, but its not the same convoy as before, this one is going on a different direction.
Intercept course!
Can you guess what happened when i got near to it?
And same deal as before, no ammount of removing mods can fix it.
Its so consistent i can tell the EXACT time the game will CTD (00:03).

Its as if some convoy configurations are incorrect and cause the game to crash when the game spawns them in sight?

Remembering back, it seems that most my CTDs with GWX occur when convoys are nearby.

So my system is at fault maybe? video drivers, bad ram etc.?
Seems unlikely to me, since i also run another installation of SH3 in paralel, that one with NYGM-2017A, HSIE patches, MaGUI, MEPv6, and i have never had one single CTD. Not one. The game is flawless.

Its so frustrating, i really like GWX, but this constant crashing makes it just impossible for me to enjoy it.

Could it be an error in a convoy definition? maybe game is trying to load a ship that doesnt have textures for it or something?
It seems obvious to me that the problem happens when certain convoys are arround.
Any ideas of what i could do to fix this problem???

thanks
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Old 04-07-2017, 05:04 AM   #7054
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Send your mod list...
oops! youre right, i should have started there.

GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
DasBoot Music Mod
M.E.P v6
M.E.P v6- VisualSensors for GWX3
Widescreen MaGui v3.4-SA

EDIT: forgot to add
Patch V16B1 + EnvSimAct

goes last, wich is the HSIE patch + the envsim fix.


For long now I have kept it as small as possible to avoid unstability issues, and during this latest incident i tried removing all of them one by one. Untill nothing was left. No luck

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Old 04-07-2017, 05:19 AM   #7055
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oops! youre right, i should have started there.

GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
DasBoot Music Mod
M.E.P v6
M.E.P v6- VisualSensors for GWX3
Widescreen MaGui v3.4-SA

EDIT: forgot to add
Patch V16B1 + EnvSimAct

goes last, wich is the HSIE patch + the envsim fix.


For long now I have kept it as small as possible to avoid unstability issues, and during this latest incident i tried removing all of them one by one. Untill nothing was left. No luck
you have "GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects"
and in hsie patch you have damage effect fix checked or unchecked?
and environment fix... probed uninstall this?
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:44 AM   #7056
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you have "GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects"
and in hsie patch you have damage effect fix checked or unchecked?
and environment fix... probed uninstall this?
Thanks for your reply.
What Damage effects in hsie option do you mean? the only option in the options selector app i see is diesel damages, is that the one you mean? if so no, i dont have it enabled.
Also, i have tried disabling every single mod one by one, until JSGME is empty. Same problem. Even after a full game + GWX install i get the same problem.

After a lot of trial and error, restarting the same patrol, and using the free camera, i managed to get a little closer to the convoy (same one allways spawns, near the gibraltar strait), and i noticed that at least two of its ships are on fire! and i mean really on fire! they are both engulfed in flames!
Needless to say i havent touched them, the weather is calm (no rough seas), and i dont see any reason why they would be so damaged. I tried several times to get closer to inspect the rest of the convoy, but the game allways crashes before i can get near.

I guess this is some sort of error in the game? maybe this is related to the problem? Why would those ships be burning up?
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:51 AM   #7057
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Oh man...
Wanted to get some pictures of the burning ships, but Now i cant even get close again. Game crashes shortly after loading the save game i just made when i was approaching the convoy.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:08 AM   #7058
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Oh man...
Wanted to get some pictures of the burning ships, but Now i cant even get close again. Game crashes shortly after loading the save game i just made when i was approaching the convoy.
have 4GB patch checked?
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:28 AM   #7059
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have 4GB patch checked?
Yep, i do.
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:59 AM   #7060
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Yep, i do.
you have new installation of GWX..right?
can send image of option selector hsie? (screenshot )
you have strange problem
you are in single mission or carrier?
if single mission... which?
start by sh3 commander or not? sh3 commander with gwx-file?
if you better explain I can probe in my PC...
ohhhh and forgot... PC specify?...
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:06 PM   #7061
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you have new installation of GWX..right?
Yes, reinstalled the game and gwx twice now.

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can send image of option selector hsie? (screenshot )
Here it is:
subir foto

Please note that i have tried it without the hsie patch, and have the same problem.

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you are in single mission or carrier?
i am in career mode.

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start by sh3 commander or not?
No commander, normal start.

PC Specs:
Windows 7 Professional x64
Intel i5
8GB RAM
Nvidia GTX750ti graphics - drivers up to date
Asus motherboard.

I dont understand why those ships in the convoy are on fire, maybe thats part of the problem?

Thanky you very much for your help!
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:15 PM   #7062
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I have tried something...
- I activated my usual mod list (as shown in a past post).

- I started the patrol again (loaded the last "in base after mission" save and started new patrol)

- I got assigned the same grid, and when i was close to the area the same convoy radio report came in. (thats the convoy that has burning ships).

- This time, i ignored the report, and went the opposite way of the convoy, so i never got close to it.
This time the game has not crashed so far. I need to look for another convoy to see if the other convoys also have ships on fire, and if the game crashes when i get near to them.
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Old 04-07-2017, 10:33 PM   #7063
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Managed to get almost a full patrol going without issues, then i got the report of a convoy, usual CG area near gibraltar. But this one certainly a diferent one, as it was much later, diferent direction, etc.

So i go to intercept (fearing what would happen).
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And sure enough. The minute i got close to it, CTD.

I give up. Ibe spent the last 24hrs trying to debug this thing instead of playing. I think Im gonna stick with NYGM for a while. Not blaming GWX, maybe its my pc, my mods (or lack of, since i tried without any) or whatnot, but the fact is i cant play.

I really appreciate you trying to help hauangua.
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Old 04-07-2017, 11:43 PM   #7064
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Managed to get almost a full patrol going without issues, then i got the report of a convoy, usual CG area near gibraltar. But this one certainly a diferent one, as it was much later, diferent direction, etc.

So i go to intercept (fearing what would happen).
share image

And sure enough. The minute i got close to it, CTD.

I give up. Ibe spent the last 24hrs trying to debug this thing instead of playing. I think Im gonna stick with NYGM for a while. Not blaming GWX, maybe its my pc, my mods (or lack of, since i tried without any) or whatnot, but the fact is i cant play.

I really appreciate you trying to help hauangua.
from what you write seems almost a ram problem....but with 8 gb is impossible!!!
probed run like administrator... and in compatible mod?
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Old 04-08-2017, 03:15 PM   #7065
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I have allways enjoyed GWX, but the thing that allways bothered me is that (for me at least) its somehow unstable, with CTDs happening every now and then.

Recently this problem has gotten a lot worse, to the point where i can almost no longer play it.

Im currently in mid 1941, near the Gibraltar strait, and i receive a radio report of a convoy. I set course to intercept it, and the minute i get close to it, the game CTDs.

I dont have many mods, mainly Manos enviroment, HSIE patch, and MaGUI. Still i disable them one by one and try again, no luck. The game crashes predictably at the exact moment i approach the convoy.

So i delete everything, clean install of the game & GWX.
Load the save game and BAM! as soon as i approach that convoy, CTD.

Ok, maybe the save game is corrupted or something? i scrap that patrol, loaded the latest "In game after mission" save and start a new patrol.
Arround the same area as before (CG87) another report, convoy, but its not the same convoy as before, this one is going on a different direction.
Intercept course!
Can you guess what happened when i got near to it?
And same deal as before, no ammount of removing mods can fix it.
Its so consistent i can tell the EXACT time the game will CTD (00:03).

Its as if some convoy configurations are incorrect and cause the game to crash when the game spawns them in sight?

Remembering back, it seems that most my CTDs with GWX occur when convoys are nearby.

So my system is at fault maybe? video drivers, bad ram etc.?
Seems unlikely to me, since i also run another installation of SH3 in paralel, that one with NYGM-2017A, HSIE patches, MaGUI, MEPv6, and i have never had one single CTD. Not one. The game is flawless.

Its so frustrating, i really like GWX, but this constant crashing makes it just impossible for me to enjoy it.

Could it be an error in a convoy definition? maybe game is trying to load a ship that doesnt have textures for it or something?
It seems obvious to me that the problem happens when certain convoys are arround.
Any ideas of what i could do to fix this problem???

thanks
I myself have not experienced these issues with GWX. I did experience them with LSH and resolved them with a hardware upgrade. It looks as though your mods list has been cleared as compatible - so I'll ask what your computer build is:
CPU
Graphics chip and memory size
Main Memory
Hard drive
As we extend the mods of SH3, we have also extended the resources used.
so here is my suggestion:
In addition of wanting to know your computer build, I'd ask for two things -
Run the game as configured and enable ctrl + F8 and get your frame rate as you approach the convoy.
Run your NYGM to a convoy and check your frame rate
One last note: While it may be that your hardware is healthy enough to run the game as configured, could it be that you have components failing?

EDIT: I saw your PC spec in a post. How much memory on the GTX750ti? DDR3 or DDR5?
Hard drive is ???
Something else that MAY help: Give your computer an enema. I recommend Crap Cleaner and or Glary utilities, both of which can be had free. After that, if you have a mechanical hard drive defrag it. If you have an SSD, trim it.

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