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Old 02-06-18, 12:47 PM   #106
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It was our defense that cost us the game. No way should the birds have been able to score 41 points.
When a top defensive player is benched and the Eagles QB goes against his replacements scoring eight (8) times out of ten (10) with the football ... it comes down to why?

Could it be the flu (I don't think so) http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/p...uper_bowl_loss

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Butler did have a challenging week. He went to the hospital in Boston two Sundays ago to get treated for flu symptoms and wasn’t well enough the next day to fly with the team to Minneapolis, so he arrived Tuesday. Butler said he finally began to feel like himself by Thursday, so his practice snaps were limited on the previous days.
Could it be contract negotiations?

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Two weeks ago, Butler openly reflected on his personal journey and admitted that it crossed his mind Super Bowl LII could be his last game with the Patriots. Could Belichick have viewed that as a sign Butler was thinking about himself ahead of the team? Or was the public benching the culmination of a drawn-out bout of contentious contract negotiations, or lack thereof?

Everyone has been left to guess. Belichick informed Butler before kickoff that he wouldn’t play, but the reason wasn’t given, according to a source.
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Old 02-06-18, 01:08 PM   #107
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When a top defensive player is benched and the Eagles QB goes against his replacements scoring eight (8) times out of ten (10) with the football ... it comes down to why?

Could it be the flu (I don't think so) http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/p...uper_bowl_loss



Could it be contract negotiations?
Maybe it was his weed habit or his womanizing,

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/0...es-report.html

But whatever the reason he's not that good that he would have made the difference.
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Old 02-07-18, 08:26 AM   #108
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But whatever the reason he's not that good that he would have made the difference.
I'm not so sure on that. The Patriots posted a 13-3 record as did the Eagles during the regular season. The Patriots did that with Malcolm Butler in the secondary. There are a lot of variables and factors that contribute to that record including the coaching and Tom Brady at quarterback. The Eagles quarterback, Nick Foles, shredded the patriots secondary, doing a good job of mixing his passing with an effective run game.

The Patriots were caught flat footed a number of times as the Eagles moved up and down the field at will. Malcolm Butler was scheduled to play CB in the Superbowl but scratched the night before ? If Butler was good enough to play during the regular season and helped get the Patriots to the Superbowl, why remove him ? This seems like a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Apparently, adding Outside Linebacker James Harrison wasn't enough to make much of a difference either although he did have a sack.

Belichek, if the Patriots aren't playing well, will make adjustments during half time to counter whatever the other team is doing to play better in the 2nd half. If Belichick did make adjustments, it had no effect on what Nick Foles and the Eagles were doing. On the other hand, the Patriots offense and TE Gronkowski woke up a bit and played better in the 2nd half.

The very definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

If the patriots couldn't stop the Eagles from moving the ball, then inserting Butler back in at Cornerback couldn't possibly hurt and I think he would have helped slow down the Eagles offense and passing game. At the very least, the Eagles would have had to make adjustments in their passing game to compensate for Butler being in the secondary. With Butler playing, the Patriots might have been able to be more creative with corner blitzes and other defensive schemes to disrupt what Nick Foles and the Eagles offense was doing. On the other hand, as Mr Quatro had said, Butler was battling the flu so who knows how much of an impact he would have had if he had played.


That's just my thoughts though.

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Old 02-07-18, 10:10 AM   #109
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Butler did say out loud, to anyone that cared to listen, that this might be his last game, plus the other players snitched and said it might be the weed and women he was fond of before the game.

They lost and the spot light is on Belichek's decision to bench Butler ... he is one tough coach for sure.

This time, I for one think, it cost New England the game, but Belichek's tough stance is bible based "Let your yea be yea and let your nay be nay"

One note I noticed is that Belichek is reported to have let his favorites slide on weed and women before ... so maybe it was something else?

Still a great game if you were a Philly fan, uh? Did you see the stupid crazy things the fans did after the game?
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Someone won big , uh?


http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id...super-bowl-lii

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LAS VEGAS -- With a day to go before kickoff, four reported million-dollar bets have already been placed on Super Bowl LII -- all on the underdog Philadelphia Eagles.

A bettor on Friday at William Hill placed a $1 million money-line bet on the Eagles at +155 odds. If Philadelphia pulls the upset over the New England Patriots, the unnamed bettor would net a $1,550,000 profit.

Someone placed a $1 million wager on the Patriots as well, bringing the total to five million-dollar bets.
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Some odd things happening up here in New England.

McDaniels leaving Indy at the altar by backing out of the head coach gig at the last second was completely unexpected as was the Butler benching, as was the Garapolo trade. "In Bill We Trust" is wearing a bit thin.

Butler denies all allegations and has a significant amount of supporters on the team including TB12. Then there are the lingering questions over the Garapolo trade. We really should have gotten a much better deal for him and the question is why we didn't.

Local speculation is that Belichick will be gone in a year or two, either retired or rage quitting depending on which theory you believe and that Kraft has lined up McDaniels as his replacement.
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