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Old 05-15-07, 09:53 PM   #16
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Old 05-15-07, 09:54 PM   #17
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I hope Ubi is indeed making another patch. To not to, given the current state of the game, is simply inconceivable.
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Old 05-15-07, 10:02 PM   #18
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Neal is the heart and soul of Subsim. com.
If Neal is asking, he is asking for the community.
He knows the lifes blood that flow thru this forum.
He knows greatness when it's there
He knows what this community is looking for
He wants those who believe to step forward
He wants those that can, to change for the better
He knows what this community wants
And if he asks for change, then it is best to stand up and listen
Listen to those who have made "SH" what it is..........

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Old 05-15-07, 10:02 PM   #19
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And multiplayer needs some work too

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Old 05-15-07, 10:04 PM   #20
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I agree completely that patch 1.3+ is needed.

While the modding community never ceases to amaze me there are things that even they can't fix, things that require a developer's attention. Please provide that attention and make SH4 the quality title it deserves to be.
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Old 05-15-07, 10:05 PM   #21
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I heartily agree with Neal. There HAS to be a 1.3 to finish the game. I've given up on SHIV until such a patch is released. I can honestly say if Ubisoft does not release a 1.3, this will be the last Ubisoft product I purchase. I'll remind them of this fact every new title they release. I was keeping the faith till now, but if Neal is concerned then I'm WAY concerned that SHIV has been abandoned.

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It's coming up on two months since Silent Hunter 4 was released. Two patches have brought the game up to where it is stable and most of the basic features are functional, but there are still several key aspects that need attention and it's too quiet in the Ubisoft camp. I have not heard anything about the status of a third patch, which the game needs to be considered complete. Before the dev team gets too far from the construction site, Subsim is going to mount a campaign for patch v1.3. Silent Hunter 4 is an enjoyable game but has yet to reach the point where we consider it complete. The future of the Silent Hunter franchise depends on maintaining a reputation for quality.

We call on Ubisoft to complete Silent Hunter 4. We don't expect every wish to be fulfilled, but there are several key gameplay issues that loyal players and Ubisoft customers, who bought an incomplete game, deserve to have addressed. These include:
  • All AI needs tweaking, too often merchant ships all come to a stop and muddle around when under attack. Destroyers guarding merchants and especially in task forces occasionally seem somewhat uninterested in firing back. The Subchaser is unable to fire its main gun at all. If you mod the Subchaser to have a second gun in a raised position where the AA gun is it will fire this gun. The Akizuki DD has a similar issue, of the four guns it has only the two guns on the raised platforms actually fire. When the boat is rammed by a destroyer (for example) the destroyer generally comes of worse and often explodes.
  • Units of measurement: Imperial units for ship dimensions, torpedo depth gauge, range figure in the TDC and Position Keeper, all UOM issues need to be resolved.
  • Campaign retirement – feature or bug? Bug. Suggestion that it should be optional.
  • Repetitive patrols still get assigned.
  • Chronometer still doesn’t work as described in the manual. “The Chronometer bug”, this needs a quick and dirty fix, just a simple speed response in the text box when the Speed button is selected in the TDC, as occurs when the player clicks the Depth Beneath Keel button. But, importantly, the player should still have the choice of manually entering his own speed estimate in the TDC.
  • Radar needs finishing touches. It doesn't work when heading South 90deg to 270deg. Is SD radar fixed? Does is not detect ships but will detect aircraft? Also, when SD radar fitted there is no A scope display.
We need your help to demonstrate the need for patch 1.3. Join the campaign here and make yourself heard. Post here. Don't hesitate or put it off. This thread will need hundreds of names to merit any attention.

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Other issues and discussion can be found in this topic.
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Old 05-15-07, 10:05 PM   #22
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I wholeheartedly endorse Neal's call for a legitimate 1.3 patch for SH4. Our appreciation for the game's existence - even for the whole SH franchise - should not be abused to the point where its potential and the quality of it's predecessor are used to justify the game's release well short of an acceptable level of stability and quality. Patches help to fortify this potentially shattered bridge of trust, and indeed a 1.3 is entirely justified in order to validate the purchase price of this software, but they don't fix the underlying breach of confidence that this whole affair has created.

Ubisoft, we love you for producing a game like SH4 but we hate your lack of support for it. Show us you respect your customers and the dedicated subsim fan base by allowing 1.3 to be developed and released asap.

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Old 05-15-07, 10:11 PM   #23
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Ditto on the request we NEED patch 1.3. Silent Hunter 4 has the potential of becoming the greatest subsim ever, but we still need support from the devs. Once again, 1.3 is a must.
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Old 05-15-07, 10:13 PM   #24
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Communication the key I agree.Although agreement fixes nothing,the community,asked for all these features.(be careful what you ask for you might get it !)
The features/buggy implemented as they are,might be patched ? Only UBI knows when? Integrity,& communication,are in short lacking,from sellers side of the fence.
It seems to be human nature to complain,& hearing everyones concerns,only expresses the expectation that SHI is great,SHIII Good,SHIV needs work.Sorta like; They broke a doz.eggs,now make an omelet ! Can they? SURE. Will they,unknown !
These many similar posts,are like beating a sick animal/product;to get the job done. Only option
Hope springs eternal.
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Old 05-15-07, 10:13 PM   #25
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Fix it or lose my business in the future. I'm not blaming devs, I am blaming UBIsoft!
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Old 05-15-07, 10:18 PM   #26
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Yea, please come on with a patch. At the very least, the game ought to work as stated in the manual. Looking forward to 1.3
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Old 05-15-07, 10:24 PM   #27
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Well said Neal, you (and Ubi of course ;-)) got my vote for v1.3.
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Old 05-15-07, 10:28 PM   #28
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The game certainly need another patch. The potential for a really stunning game is there, if only it got finished to a degree that I'm sure the devs intended and the game deserves.
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Old 05-15-07, 10:39 PM   #29
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I stopped playing SH4 shortly after the 1.2 patch came out, hoping another patch wouldn't be too far behind and would fix some of the remaining issues. It would be extremely disappointing if 1.2 ends up being the last patch, or if a half-assed 1.3 comes out leaving some of these glaring issues to be stitched up somehow by modders.


Please don't abandon SH4, Ubi. Besides these things, it's a high quality, amazing game, and deserves much better.
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Old 05-15-07, 10:43 PM   #30
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I read a lot here but don't usually say too much. On this I agree.
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