Another TMO 2.5 download elsewhere?

Zky · 01-03-17, 03:59 PM

Hey, just wondering if there is another place to download TMO 2.5 then in the download section?

Having issues with my installation. Everything seems to work as vanilla but as soon as I apply TMO 2.5 I get "missing" or black textures on different ships in the Museum and crashes if I try to view the subs, so after 7+ reinstalls and different mod soups which made me find out that it all breaks at mod 1 (TMO 2.5) I'm trying to find other options.

Trying a last clean install with registry all cleaned out and everything...

razark · 01-03-17, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zky

I get "missing" or black textures

Do you have SH4 version 1.5 (U-boat update)? What you describe sounds like what happens when you install TMO 2.5 on an SH4 1.4 install.

Zky · 01-03-17, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

Do you have SH4 version 1.5 (U-boat update)? What you describe sounds like what happens when you install TMO 2.5 on an SH4 1.4 install.

Hi Razark, yes I do actually and the version in the corner is 1.5

I should mention that this is a Steam version, never had any issues with SH5 (or other game) on that but SH4 could be another thing I guess

Rockin Robbins · 01-03-17, 07:06 PM

Actually no, it should work flawlessly. What directory is your game installed into--the entire path. If you're in the \program files or \program files (x86) directories Windows watchdogs won't let mods change files there. So JSGME can't work properly.

Set Steam to install games in a root directory, like c:\games and that problem goes away. And that's been a problem since Vista, so it's not a Windows 10 only problem.

Berserker · 01-03-17, 08:43 PM

I put tmo 2.5 in my D: folder runs just fine...

Zky · 01-04-17, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Actually no, it should work flawlessly. What directory is your game installed into--the entire path. If you're in the \program files or \program files (x86) directories Windows watchdogs won't let mods change files there. So JSGME can't work properly.

Set Steam to install games in a root directory, like c:\games and that problem goes away. And that's been a problem since Vista, so it's not a Windows 10 only problem.

Shouldn't be a problem either as this is my directory: A:\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific

Any other ideas on what could be wrong? Still open to the idea of downloading TMO 2.5 from another source then subsim to make sure the issue isn't there (which is highly unlikely i guess)

Rockin Robbins · 01-04-17, 02:55 PM

Do other mods work correctly on your machine?

Zky · 01-04-17, 04:27 PM

Yes stuff like a small graphics mod do work. Applying a mod like OTC does add more issues though.

have been struggling with sh4 for almost 3 weeks now so I think I will give up and maybe start up my old SH5 and start digging my self another mod grave there...

Though it would be interesting to test another mega mod and see if that works instead...

propbeanie · 01-04-17, 08:38 PM

You could always try
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3634

which is the LAA download on this site. You mention skin troubles and CTD in the Museum and unable to see the subs... my memory banks won't quite pull something in... but is this on a laptop?

Zky · 01-05-17, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

You could always try
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3634

which is the LAA download on this site. You mention skin troubles and CTD in the Museum and unable to see the subs... my memory banks won't quite pull something in... but is this on a laptop?

Thanks Beanie, playing on a proper gaming rig no laptop.

Zky · 01-06-17, 07:16 AM

Already posted this in the textures missing thread as me and Cobra5150 creating that thread seemed to have the same issues but I will post the same answer here

So I actually seem to have fixed my texture issue and with that also some random CTDs that occurred! A bit unclear what actually fixed the issue, but I read somewhere that if you dont run the game and play something like the tutorials for a bit, before applying mods, steam can try to verify files on first startup and overwrite some of your applied mod files.

The installation process
Uninstalling SH4 and UBM from steam menu.
Running CCleander, scanning and fixing registry
Install SH4 vanilla
NEW addition to process, run vanilla SH4 and play a bit of the sub tutorials
Install UBM
NEW addition to process, run SH4 UBM and play a bit of the sub tutorials, i launched the game twice in this step, one time first selecting SH4 vanilla in steam menu and then UBM. Both should start the same exe but just to be sure.
NEW addition to process, install jsgme from a old SH5 backup that I had, v2.6.0.157
NEW addition to process, install and run LAA on SH4.exe
Install mods

Issues that still occur
1. No subs are visible in Museum, happens as soon as TMO 2.5 is applied. BUT no CTD
2. Menu ID missing error after OTC mod is applied and loading up tutorial or campaign at sea, I fixed this by replacing the menu_1024_768.ini manually with the last applied menu_1024_768.ini file from the OTC mod files.

I have not had the time to run the campaign more then getting out of PH and testing the different command stations but all seems to be well so far...

propbeanie · 01-06-17, 08:26 AM

Post your mod list from JSGME again, if you would...

Cobra5150 · 01-07-17, 04:47 AM

As far as I know you only have to install SH4 UBM if using Steam. You do not need to install SH4. Also I read some where that the museum crash is a known TMO bug caused by the addition of so many new ships.

Rockin Robbins · 01-07-17, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobra5150

As far as I know you only have to install SH4 UBM if using Steam. You do not need to install SH4. Also I read some where that the museum crash is a known TMO bug caused by the addition of so many new ships.

I never used the museum very much, so can't comment on its reliability with TMO. BUT.....being project leader for Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate Project has taught me that most add-on ships barely work. They are filled with errors that the game tolerates to a reasonable degree, but the Museum and Mission Editor freak out about.

As a matter of fact, we use the Museum as the torture tester for ships. Once it works right there, we don't have to worry about game behavior. The Museum doesn't suffer fools lightly. In FOTRSU our main priority, when we were debugging ships, was that the Museum operate properly. I doubt any other mod has realized the nasty things we have discovered or all those buggy ships wouldn't be out there.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the Museum in TMO didn't work perfectly. The Museum is a nasty beast!

01-03-17, 03:59 PM	#1
Zky Bosun Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 69 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	Another TMO 2.5 download elsewhere? Hey, just wondering if there is another place to download TMO 2.5 then in the download section? Having issues with my installation. Everything seems to work as vanilla but as soon as I apply TMO 2.5 I get "missing" or black textures on different ships in the Museum and crashes if I try to view the subs, so after 7+ reinstalls and different mod soups which made me find out that it all breaks at mod 1 (TMO 2.5) I'm trying to find other options. Trying a last clean install with registry all cleaned out and everything...

01-03-17, 07:06 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Actually no, it should work flawlessly. What directory is your game installed into--the entire path. If you're in the \program files or \program files (x86) directories Windows watchdogs won't let mods change files there. So JSGME can't work properly. Set Steam to install games in a root directory, like c:\games and that problem goes away. And that's been a problem since Vista, so it's not a Windows 10 only problem. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

01-03-17, 08:43 PM	#5
Berserker Aggressive skipper Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 328 Downloads: 2166 Uploads: 0	I put tmo 2.5 in my D: folder runs just fine... __________________ Shoot,Move,Communicate..Kill,Destroy,Eradicate...

01-04-17, 02:55 PM	#7
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Do other mods work correctly on your machine? __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

01-04-17, 04:27 PM	#8
Zky Bosun Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 69 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	Yes stuff like a small graphics mod do work. Applying a mod like OTC does add more issues though. have been struggling with sh4 for almost 3 weeks now so I think I will give up and maybe start up my old SH5 and start digging my self another mod grave there... Though it would be interesting to test another mega mod and see if that works instead... Last edited by Zky; 01-04-17 at 05:32 PM.

01-04-17, 08:38 PM	#9
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,742 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	You could always try http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3634 which is the LAA download on this site. You mention skin troubles and CTD in the Museum and unable to see the subs... my memory banks won't quite pull something in... but is this on a laptop? __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

01-06-17, 07:16 AM	#11
Zky Bosun Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 69 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	Already posted this in the textures missing thread as me and Cobra5150 creating that thread seemed to have the same issues but I will post the same answer here So I actually seem to have fixed my texture issue and with that also some random CTDs that occurred! A bit unclear what actually fixed the issue, but I read somewhere that if you dont run the game and play something like the tutorials for a bit, before applying mods, steam can try to verify files on first startup and overwrite some of your applied mod files. The installation process Uninstalling SH4 and UBM from steam menu. Running CCleander, scanning and fixing registry Install SH4 vanilla NEW addition to process, run vanilla SH4 and play a bit of the sub tutorials Install UBM NEW addition to process, run SH4 UBM and play a bit of the sub tutorials, i launched the game twice in this step, one time first selecting SH4 vanilla in steam menu and then UBM. Both should start the same exe but just to be sure. NEW addition to process, install jsgme from a old SH5 backup that I had, v2.6.0.157 NEW addition to process, install and run LAA on SH4.exe Install mods Issues that still occur 1. No subs are visible in Museum, happens as soon as TMO 2.5 is applied. BUT no CTD 2. Menu ID missing error after OTC mod is applied and loading up tutorial or campaign at sea, I fixed this by replacing the menu_1024_768.ini manually with the last applied menu_1024_768.ini file from the OTC mod files. I have not had the time to run the campaign more then getting out of PH and testing the different command stations but all seems to be well so far...

01-06-17, 08:26 AM	#12
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,742 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Post your mod list from JSGME again, if you would... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

01-07-17, 04:47 AM	#13
Cobra5150 Seaman Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Big Island, HI Posts: 34 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	As far as I know you only have to install SH4 UBM if using Steam. You do not need to install SH4. Also I read some where that the museum crash is a known TMO bug caused by the addition of so many new ships.