Strange SSM problem

TLAM Strike · 07-23-05, 12:40 AM

Iâ€™m making a mission where an OHP must escort a Tico Cruiser along with a few DDs. Well at one point a TF of PLAN DDs and FFs attack them on their flank now all the SSMs fired by the PLAN ships donâ€™t seem to have the range to threaten the Cruiser group and just plunge in to the sea just inside SM-2 range. The same thing seemed to happen to all the Harpoons from the Cruiser group, I get a Link on one of the PLAN warships from I guess the Cruiser (Since it has the best Radar) and a bunch of Harpoons get fired on it but the Link contact is about 30 miles away from the correct position. The same thing happened with a flight of Q-5s, they looked to be almost flying over the group according to the Link but they were many miles away (The Q-5s fired from beyond weapons range too.)

Whatâ€™s going on and how do I fix this?

Ula Jolly · 07-23-05, 07:32 AM

Aircraft links are never trustworthy. No pilot would fly in the same direction, height and speed at all times when engaging an enemy like your TF. This is rather annoying, or at least the designators are rather annoying when it comes to aircraft.
As for the surface link, was it 30nm off behind/forward of the PLAN relative to their course, or was it to the far left/right?
We could be seeing the effect of that an AI links a contact to which he does not have the range to, but only the bearing. Should such a behaviour be doctrined, there should also be an in-game notification of this. Pressing the link and checking if it has a range of --- might be that kind of notification.

If the bearing to the PLAN link was to the relative left or right, and indeed the cruiser could never have intercepted a signal from there (seeing as the hostile ship was never at that bearing), there might be a doctrined error, which makes for slightly more realism.

As for rockets, I have lots of problems with them. For instance firing an SM-2 against a surface contact: The rocket goes looooow... then it goes lower... until it hits the water, bounces, and has to build up speed and direction again. Very strange. The ESSM SAM seems also to be a little fooked up. Same with the Phoenix AAM. I once saw it (the phoenix) engage the track of a Su-33, but never made it half way due to lots of rolling around and in the end seizing to exist (even though its range was FAR greater than it had traveled).

07-23-05, 12:40 AM	#1
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Strange SSM problem Iâ€™m making a mission where an OHP must escort a Tico Cruiser along with a few DDs. Well at one point a TF of PLAN DDs and FFs attack them on their flank now all the SSMs fired by the PLAN ships donâ€™t seem to have the range to threaten the Cruiser group and just plunge in to the sea just inside SM-2 range. The same thing seemed to happen to all the Harpoons from the Cruiser group, I get a Link on one of the PLAN warships from I guess the Cruiser (Since it has the best Radar) and a bunch of Harpoons get fired on it but the Link contact is about 30 miles away from the correct position. The same thing happened with a flight of Q-5s, they looked to be almost flying over the group according to the Link but they were many miles away (The Q-5s fired from beyond weapons range too.) Whatâ€™s going on and how do I fix this? __________________

07-23-05, 07:32 AM	#2
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Aircraft links are never trustworthy. No pilot would fly in the same direction, height and speed at all times when engaging an enemy like your TF. This is rather annoying, or at least the designators are rather annoying when it comes to aircraft. As for the surface link, was it 30nm off behind/forward of the PLAN relative to their course, or was it to the far left/right? We could be seeing the effect of that an AI links a contact to which he does not have the range to, but only the bearing. Should such a behaviour be doctrined, there should also be an in-game notification of this. Pressing the link and checking if it has a range of --- might be that kind of notification. If the bearing to the PLAN link was to the relative left or right, and indeed the cruiser could never have intercepted a signal from there (seeing as the hostile ship was never at that bearing), there might be a doctrined error, which makes for slightly more realism. As for rockets, I have lots of problems with them. For instance firing an SM-2 against a surface contact: The rocket goes looooow... then it goes lower... until it hits the water, bounces, and has to build up speed and direction again. Very strange. The ESSM SAM seems also to be a little fooked up. Same with the Phoenix AAM. I once saw it (the phoenix) engage the track of a Su-33, but never made it half way due to lots of rolling around and in the end seizing to exist (even though its range was FAR greater than it had traveled). __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!