[REL] FOTRS Ultimate Project

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by jenrick

Maybe I'm just dense, but could someone post the steps to install FOTRS on a clean install of SH4 with JGME? I'm having no success and it keeps crashing out.

-Jenrick

Once you get the hang of JSGME, it's a breeze... ee-yeah, right...

It's advisable to empty the My Documents \ SH4 folder. Make your SH4 install. Therein lies the rub. The game disk, or download, or Steam game, all default to using "C:\ Program Files (x86) \ ..." as their "base" folder to install to. This is a left-over from the Windows XP days, when that was fine to do. With today's "modern" computer and "security", Windows will "protect" that folder, and prevent "un-authorized" changes, thereby wrecking your mod activations, since you didn't go through Windows to do that. So create a folder yourself, or edit the path, and stay away from Program Files folders. On my disk installs, I just delete that portion of the path, and have "C:\ Ubisoft \ Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific".

Once you have that, put JSGME in the Wolves of the Pacific (or whatever you called it) folder, and run it. JSGME will then create a folder called MODS in that same directory - er, folder. So you'll now see the folders "Data", "MODS", "RegistrationReminder", etc. Take your mod archive file and place it in MODS. If you use 7zip , you're golden. Just activate the mod, as below. If you use the MS Windows archive mis-manager, you'll have an extra folder of "100_FalloftheRisingSun_Ultimate_v0.XX_PublicBeta_ EN" (whatever the version is for the "XX"). You need to change the name of the top-level one, and then "drag" that extra folder out. Delete the one you changed the name of. Now run JSGME and click on "Tasks..." in the middle bar there. Choose "Create snapshot of game files". It will take that a while to run. Once it's finished, then select the "100_FalloftheRisingSun_Ultimate_v0.XX_PublicBeta_ EN" listing in the left-hand pane, and then on the right facing "Arrow" at the top of the center bar, and then find something else to do for a while. Depending on the computer, it might be five, it might be ten minutes... When that's complete, play the game. However, do NOT load any previous saves from any other mods, including FotRSU. Doing so will corrupt your game. Hopefully, that does it for you. Either way, let us know how you get along.

[torpedobait]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Just to satisfy my curiosity, that convoy when you encountered it, was it OK, or all messed up? If it was messed up, then that would be another issue further down the coast... - Something has trashed the 4Xx_Jap_HarborTraffic layers - and it looks like it's the old Jap_HarborTraffic layer...

No, the convoy was not messed up. They proceeded in an orderly single file, straight ahead, right into my torpedoes (heh, heh).

[Larrywb57]

First Patrol out of Midway with the USS Plunger, porpoise class submarine, sonar picked up sound contact. Turned to heading of 106° and surfaced at flank speed towards hearing of sound contact. Using free camera, went in the direction of the sound contact. Came across two fishing vessels and proceeded towards sound contact. The convoy appeared to be in a heading of WNW. Noticed what appeared to be a Medium Composite Freighter was sinking with only the bow above the water. The convoy consisted of a total of four other ships. They were being led by a Corvette Kanamuro Class escort, a Tonan Maru Class was next followed by two Medium Cooler Class ship, the last one on a helming course. As I continued to watch, the escort was leading with the other two ships in a straight line behind. The last Medium Cooler ship started moving in a different direction, SSW. The reason I'm calling attention to this is, there 'might' have been a collision of two convoys before I arrived. My position was long 142° 52'E lat 41°46'E. Time was 08:37 hrs, USS Plunger is Midway base submarine. Using FOTRS version 0.63 downloaded on July 22.

[RampantParanoia]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

did you "say" earlier what your video card was, and what you're running Windows at, resolution-wise, what the "native" resolution of your monitor is, and what resolution and refresh are you running the game itself at?...

Yeah, now included in my sig for simplicity I've wiped saves and installed 0.63 and it's still doing it through my own sub, with and without V-sync enable and with/without the tweaks from the nVidia thread enabled. I'll have to have a deeper read of it but it's 30-odd pages so will take some time!

Cheers for all your help and patience so far

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by RampantParanoia

Yeah, now included in my sig for simplicity I've wiped saves and installed 0.63 and it's still doing it through my own sub, with and without V-sync enable and with/without the tweaks from the nVidia thread enabled. I'll have to have a deeper read of it but it's 30-odd pages so will take some time!

Cheers for all your help and patience so far

Are you running everything then at the 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz? Is it possible to try a refresh @ 70Hz and see what it does? Failing there (expected), try disabling one thing at a time in the video settings portion of the game and see what you get. If you want, I can make you a Single Mission, set on a certain date at a certain time in a certain location, so that you can more easily test the results... ?? Let me know what boat you want, and where you want it to be set at.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by Larrywb57

First Patrol out of Midway with the USS Plunger, porpoise class submarine, sonar picked up sound contact. Turned to heading of 106° and surfaced at flank speed towards hearing of sound contact. Using free camera, went in the direction of the sound contact. Came across two fishing vessels and proceeded towards sound contact. The convoy appeared to be in a heading of WNW. Noticed what appeared to be a Medium Composite Freighter was sinking with only the bow above the water. The convoy consisted of a total of four other ships. They were being led by a Corvette Kanamuro Class escort, a Tonan Maru Class was next followed by two Medium Cooler Class ship, the last one on a helming course. As I continued to watch, the escort was leading with the other two ships in a straight line behind. The last Medium Cooler ship started moving in a different direction, SSW. The reason I'm calling attention to this is, there 'might' have been a collision of two convoys before I arrived. My position was long 142° 52'E lat 41°46'E. Time was 08:37 hrs, USS Plunger is Midway base submarine. Using FOTRS version 0.63 downloaded on July 22.

I'm taking it then that you left from Midway on Dec 8, 1941? I'm not so worried that a convoy collided with another, as much as I am about the harbors getting choked with wrecks, but it still deserves to be looked at, and try to minimize it if we can. Thanks...

[Larrywb57]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I'm taking it then that you left from Midway on Dec 8, 1941? I'm not so worried that a convoy collided with another, as much as I am about the harbors getting choked with wrecks, but it still deserves to be looked at, and try to minimize it if we can. Thanks...

Sorry Propbeanie. I was in a hurry to post the message before I left for work that I didn't include the date & time. It was 18Jun42 at 08:37 hrs.

[torpedobait]

In all the years I've been sub simming, I've never see a hit do this kind of damage, where it just blew a chunk out of the whole hull. I've seen holes in many places, but never a chunk. If this is one of the surprises you all built in to FOTARSU, it's great. Notice how the hull above collapsed at the weak point and actually hinged until it broke in two. Just lovely!

[propbeanie]

I think that's just one of those "critical hit" thingies, but can't say for certain. Some of the tankers break in two separate pieces. They should have a few more able to do that "hinge" style. That is very cool. What's even nicer is when you can see the "insides" of a ship, instead of just a slab of nothingness colored grey, but that takes a lot of artwork to do, and I ain't no artist...

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by Larrywb57

Sorry Propbeanie. I was in a hurry to post the message before I left for work that I didn't include the date & time. It was 18Jun42 at 08:37 hrs.

Thanks for that. Almost all of the levels from 1941 through 1943 are the same in that area, such that with just the Merchants and the Convoys layer loaded, we have this traffic pattern:



Lot's of potential candidates in the area, with a lot of GENERIC calls, so it could be a Merchant group (two ships) encountering a Convoy group (2-8 ships), or two convoys, or whatever. This doesn't even show what's now a messed-up 42a_Jap_HarborTraffic layer, that has magically doubled its traffic in the same area, with a similar number of groups as you see in the grab above. If we get the HarborTraffic layer to behave, it should make it all better... Thanks for the additional info... now, back to work!...

[RampantParanoia]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Are you running everything then at the 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz? Is it possible to try a refresh @ 70Hz and see what it does?

Yeah it's all running at native. My monitor will only do 59 or 60Hz, I'll try 59 just in case. I'll also work my way through the video settings one by one and report back.

Originally Posted by propbeanie

If you want, I can make you a Single Mission...

Ta muchly, I have a (fresh) save at sunset I've been using to test, unless there's something in the code that means I'd need to start a fresh mission to properly test everything?

[propbeanie]

The saves sometimes will pull bad data from the save folder that then "overwrites" what's in the computer memory for the game, not the file you edited. I'm not sure how the Settings screen stuff goes though... seems to me that you're fine, but we'd have to wait for someone more knowledgeable to confirm...

[propbeanie]

Re-visiting Miyoka Harbor, I've done an experiment with eliminating the Jap_HarborTraffic.mis from the game by renaming it with a DOT BAK appended to the name, and ran a newly created mission with a Tambor boat sitting just outside the bay's mouth, and got this:








Go figure. Armageddon has been termporarily avoided... the file is commented out in the Campaign.cfg, but it loads somehow. Further experimenting is called for, and we'll eliminate the beast one way or the other...

Edit: Fix finalized and will be submitted for next round of updates... the original segment in Campaign.cfg has been deleted, instead of just being commented-out...

[les green01]

look like you all been doing a great job keep up the good work

[s7rikeback]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Re-visiting Miyoka Harbor, I've done an experiment with eliminating the Jap_HarborTraffic.mis from the game by renaming it with a DOT BAK appended to the name, and ran a newly created mission with a Tambor boat sitting just outside the bay's mouth, and got this:








Go figure. Armageddon has been termporarily avoided... the file is commented out in the Campaign.cfg, but it loads somehow. Further experimenting is called for, and we'll eliminate the beast one way or the other...

Edit: Fix finalized and will be submitted for next round of updates... the original segment in Campaign.cfg has been deleted, instead of just being commented-out...

Looks much better... No more bowling alleys..