Photo Recon of Hostile Port Mission Approach

depthtok33l · 04-08-14, 03:45 AM

Good day fellow skippers,

I really need help in approaching a hostile port without getting caught by the DD's guarding it. IT'S SO ANNOYING

- the waters are shallow, boat rigged for silent running, always trying to evade them but somehow I always end up getting depth charged and nearly getting blown out of the water. Sometimes there are 2 vessels guarding these ports, 1 DD and a boat with depth charges.

I've tried a few hopeless tricks like torpedoing the DD which is stupid in my opinion. I've tried going in fast, submerged, took a picture but before I manage to get out I get depth charged so hard.

Tips and tricks are greatly appreciated.

04-08-14, 04:21 AM

I try to stay as close to the shore as possible and approach as slowly as possible. Sometimes the destroyers will detect you and sometimes they won't.

depthtok33l · 04-08-14, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ddales

I try to stay as close to the shore as possible and approach as slowly as possible. Sometimes the destroyers will detect you and sometimes they won't.

But wouldn't you be more shallower if you stay closer to the shore? or the AI would possibly think there's a high possibility that there are no subs there

BigWalleye · 04-08-14, 06:17 AM

Are you by any chance using TMO?

depthtok33l · 04-08-14, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye

Are you by any chance using TMO?

Yes sir. I am using TMO.

Warren Peace · 04-09-14, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by depthtok33l

Yes sir. I am using TMO.

Well, there's your problem, TMO takes the IJN's level of efficiency and cranks it up to insane.

Capt. Morgan · 04-09-14, 03:06 AM

Usually, sub-chasers don't have sonar, so as long as you keep periscope use to the absolute minimum (and don't run into them) they probably won't detect you.

DD's do have sonar, but they are deaf to anything happening behind them. So observe, plot, and time the DD's patrol pattern so that you can move in when his back is turned. As he's deaf, you can use speed.

If you can't get out before he returns, keep as much distance as you can from him, and keep turning your boat so that your bow or stern is pointed directly at him. This will make you much harder to detect. Keep your RPM's below 50 until he goes away.

BTW, there is an Easier A.I. mod for TMO that returns the sub-hunters to stock sensitivity.

depthtok33l · 04-09-14, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Morgan

Usually, sub-chasers don't have sonar, so as long as you keep periscope use to the absolute minimum (and don't run into them) they probably won't detect you.

DD's do have sonar, but they are deaf to anything happening behind them. So observe, plot, and time the DD's patrol pattern so that you can move in when his back is turned. As he's deaf, you can use speed.

If you can't get out before he returns, keep as much distance as you can from him, and keep turning your boat so that your bow or stern is pointed directly at him. This will make you much harder to detect. Keep your RPM's below 50 until he goes away.

BTW, there is an Easier A.I. mod for TMO that returns the sub-hunters to stock sensitivity.

Thanks for the input, I'll try that.

A Hidden Soul · 04-09-14, 09:43 AM

I always went in during the night at periscope depth at ahead slow. Never have been detected. Took my pictures turned around and surfaced when I was out of range then get out of there.

Capt. Morgan · 04-09-14, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by depthtok33l

Thanks for the input, I'll try that.

Good hunting:

successfully pulling off any kind of harbour action under TMO is quite an accomplishment (and yes, as per Hidden Souls post, wait till night).

merc4ulfate · 04-09-14, 07:42 PM

The easiest way is to go in at night on the surface. Unless their visual and or radar sensors are set to see you at farther ranges like later in the war they certainly will not hear you with sonar.

Getting in close to shore is ok as long as there are no shore batteries.

I have slipped past many escorts on the surface but as soon as you submerge they can hear you if they are within their sensor range for sonar.

I have ran into convoys at night slipping past escorts and the outer merchants without being seen. I try to hit the tankers first and then flank to exit the convoy on the other side while we reload for a circle round to attack again.

depthtok33l · 04-10-14, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by merc4ulfate

The easiest way is to go in at night on the surface. Unless their visual and or radar sensors are set to see you at farther ranges like later in the war they certainly will not hear you with sonar.

Getting in close to shore is ok as long as there are no shore batteries.

I have slipped past many escorts on the surface but as soon as you submerge they can hear you if they are within their sensor range for sonar.

I have ran into convoys at night slipping past escorts and the outer merchants without being seen. I try to hit the tankers first and then flank to exit the convoy on the other side while we reload for a circle round to attack again.

Thanks. I just completed my most recent photo recon mission using this.

LCQ_SH · 04-13-14, 08:42 PM

in TOMI haven't had that trouble.....just one escort and that's it.

Using Traveller mod, 2.6, there are always two escorts, one DD and one tugboat.

I usually go ahead flank straightforward to his bow, go to periscope depth, fire a 3 torp spread shot (if available, electric torps are the best to this job)...... DD is out, the tugboat can be eliminated with your deck gun.

It takes some practice to do it right, but it works for me!

Good luck.

04-08-14, 03:45 AM	#1
depthtok33l Sparky Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 156 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Photo Recon of Hostile Port Mission Approach Good day fellow skippers, I really need help in approaching a hostile port without getting caught by the DD's guarding it. IT'S SO ANNOYING - the waters are shallow, boat rigged for silent running, always trying to evade them but somehow I always end up getting depth charged and nearly getting blown out of the water. Sometimes there are 2 vessels guarding these ports, 1 DD and a boat with depth charges. I've tried a few hopeless tricks like torpedoing the DD which is stupid in my opinion. I've tried going in fast, submerged, took a picture but before I manage to get out I get depth charged so hard. Tips and tricks are greatly appreciated.

04-08-14, 04:21 AM	#2
ddales Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Very slow and quiet I try to stay as close to the shore as possible and approach as slowly as possible. Sometimes the destroyers will detect you and sometimes they won't.

04-09-14, 03:06 AM	#7
Capt. Morgan Commander Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Just east of the west coast. Posts: 462 Downloads: 391 Uploads: 0	Usually, sub-chasers don't have sonar, so as long as you keep periscope use to the absolute minimum (and don't run into them) they probably won't detect you. DD's do have sonar, but they are deaf to anything happening behind them. So observe, plot, and time the DD's patrol pattern so that you can move in when his back is turned. As he's deaf, you can use speed. If you can't get out before he returns, keep as much distance as you can from him, and keep turning your boat so that your bow or stern is pointed directly at him. This will make you much harder to detect. Keep your RPM's below 50 until he goes away. BTW, there is an Easier A.I. mod for TMO that returns the sub-hunters to stock sensitivity. __________________ There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet. -- Admiral William Halsey

04-09-14, 07:42 PM	#11
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	The easiest way is to go in at night on the surface. Unless their visual and or radar sensors are set to see you at farther ranges like later in the war they certainly will not hear you with sonar. Getting in close to shore is ok as long as there are no shore batteries. I have slipped past many escorts on the surface but as soon as you submerge they can hear you if they are within their sensor range for sonar. I have ran into convoys at night slipping past escorts and the outer merchants without being seen. I try to hit the tankers first and then flank to exit the convoy on the other side while we reload for a circle round to attack again. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

04-08-14, 06:17 AM	#4
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Are you by any chance using TMO?

04-09-14, 09:43 AM	#9
A Hidden Soul Soundman Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 146 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	I always went in during the night at periscope depth at ahead slow. Never have been detected. Took my pictures turned around and surfaced when I was out of range then get out of there.

04-13-14, 08:42 PM	#13
LCQ_SH Lieutenant Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 266 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 0	in TOMI haven't had that trouble.....just one escort and that's it. Using Traveller mod, 2.6, there are always two escorts, one DD and one tugboat. I usually go ahead flank straightforward to his bow, go to periscope depth, fire a 3 torp spread shot (if available, electric torps are the best to this job)...... DD is out, the tugboat can be eliminated with your deck gun. It takes some practice to do it right, but it works for me! Good luck.