share your online/DRM experience - Page 3

Heretic · 03-01-10, 06:55 PM

What 'services' there are geared towards the bigger games. They probably didn't think SH5 was big enough to bother with - other then as guinea pig, of course..

Some of the 'cracked' accounts could be UBI techs testing various techniques and counter measures.

CCIP · 03-01-10, 07:15 PM

Here is an important observation for you:

Just installed the game on my other PC, from the same DVD. I took five seconds between quitting game on one PC and starting it on the other - no complaints from Ubi. Save games were synchronized. Then I went and disabled the server-side save games and tried again - worked as advertised, only my older saves were shared.

All in all, that aspect is at least working as promised. You can indeed install on multiple machines and log in without issues.

Portman · 03-01-10, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Here is an important observation for you:

Just installed the game on my other PC, from the same DVD. I took five seconds between quitting game on one PC and starting it on the other - no complaints from Ubi.

All in all, that aspect is at least working as promised. You can indeed install on multiple machines and log in without issues.

Any ideas on if the lan play allows multiple computers running from the same disc/key or will we need to buy a separate copy for each computer? I've been spoiled by games like Supreme Commander that don't care as long as it's lan play.

CCIP · 03-01-10, 09:15 PM

I don't think it's possible to start the game without a ubi login, so I suspect that'd be a no, at least for the moment.

razark · 03-02-10, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TeeJay82

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You might want to be a bit careful about saying that here.

cherbert · 03-02-10, 10:43 AM

Plain sailing here.

5 hours +

Sailor Steve · 03-02-10, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by razark

You might want to be a bit careful about saying that here.

Yeah. Even mentioning the 'C' word is a big no-no.

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OakGroove · 03-02-10, 11:06 AM

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Guys, its not.... Anyone on the net can find a list of games cracked, even in the last few seconds. there is sites dedicated to feeding releases. Its not there.

My russian is a bit rusty ... but still

ddrgn · 03-02-10, 11:08 AM

As of now there is no cracked copy. There is a good chance that this game will not get cracked. And if it does it wont be for some time:

Here is an interview with a UBI spokesperson

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/53...tion-Interview

Note this part:

Do Ubi believe this DRM is unhackable?
They accept that it's all DRM's fate to be eventually hacked, explaining that internally, they've already talked of a timescale for how long their games will be protected by it. But, they believe that it's secure enough for them. "We wouldn't do it if we didn't believe in it. The guys who designed it believe in it. Do we think that it's the one system that God has sent onto earth that will never be cracked by anybody ever? We can't guarantee that, but we believe in it."

OakGroove · 03-02-10, 11:26 AM

Rise of Flight had the "benefit" of being an unpopular title. Same goes for Steel Beasts Pro - afaik there's no public crack to date.
Assassins Creed 2 is a whole different story - there is some considerable request. And it uses the same DRM scheme as SH5.

razark · 03-02-10, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OakGroove

Rise of Flight had the "benefit" of being an unpopular title. Same goes for Steel Beasts Pro - afaik there's no public crack to date.
Assassins Creed 2 is a whole different story - there is some considerable request. And it uses the same DRM scheme as SH5.

I think AC2 will be the major test for this DRM system. If all the games are using it, once it is cracked for one, it will be cracked for all of them. I wait to see what will happen.

razark · 03-02-10, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TeeJay82

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Ask Neal, check the policies here...

urfisch · 03-02-10, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TeeJay82

dear sir, i allways torrent games i buy to keep the orgininal ones in ship shape in the retail box as i consider the game my property when bought. it doesnt matter if i use my cd, your cd, some others cd or a torrent does it?

also i understand your point of view...to say it out loud here is really dangerous. keep it in mind. talking about cracked games, and software piracy is not likely seen here!

Seafireliv · 03-02-10, 01:47 PM

It really doesn`t matter how well this DRM 24\7 works or not.

The whole practise is wrong and unacceptable for a SINGLE PLAYER game.

CCIP · 03-02-10, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Seafireliv

It really doesn`t matter how well this DRM 24\7 works or not.

The whole practise is wrong and unacceptable for a SINGLE PLAYER game.

This isn't the point of the thread though, you should leave sentiments like this for our big giant anti-DRM thread.

I agree that the practice is stupid, but I also acknowledge that at least performance-wise, it's been a non-issue for me so far.

03-01-10, 06:55 PM	#31
Heretic Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 617 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 2	What 'services' there are geared towards the bigger games. They probably didn't think SH5 was big enough to bother with - other then as guinea pig, of course.. Some of the 'cracked' accounts could be UBI techs testing various techniques and counter measures. __________________ - heretic I enjoy drinking beer. MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 - Updated 22 March MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps Crew AI Scripting Information Last edited by Heretic; 03-01-10 at 07:12 PM.

03-01-10, 07:15 PM	#32
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Here is an important observation for you: Just installed the game on my other PC, from the same DVD. I took five seconds between quitting game on one PC and starting it on the other - no complaints from Ubi. Save games were synchronized. Then I went and disabled the server-side save games and tried again - worked as advertised, only my older saves were shared. All in all, that aspect is at least working as promised. You can indeed install on multiple machines and log in without issues. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-01-10, 09:15 PM	#34
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I don't think it's possible to start the game without a ubi login, so I suspect that'd be a no, at least for the moment. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-02-10, 11:08 AM	#39
ddrgn Korvettenkapitän Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 918 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 30	As of now there is no cracked copy. There is a good chance that this game will not get cracked. And if it does it wont be for some time: Here is an interview with a UBI spokesperson http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/53...tion-Interview Note this part: Do Ubi believe this DRM is unhackable? They accept that it's all DRM's fate to be eventually hacked, explaining that internally, they've already talked of a timescale for how long their games will be protected by it. But, they believe that it's secure enough for them. "We wouldn't do it if we didn't believe in it. The guys who designed it believe in it. Do we think that it's the one system that God has sent onto earth that will never be cracked by anybody ever? We can't guarantee that, but we believe in it." __________________ ddrgn mods: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=217261

03-02-10, 11:26 AM	#40
OakGroove 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Rise of Flight had the "benefit" of being an unpopular title. Same goes for Steel Beasts Pro - afaik there's no public crack to date. Assassins Creed 2 is a whole different story - there is some considerable request. And it uses the same DRM scheme as SH5. __________________ The idea that a company with more negotiating power over its customers will cut them a better deal is just bizarre. Mad Science spawns Evil Fiend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkTZTzsYoZs

03-02-10, 10:43 AM	#36
cherbert Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 210 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Plain sailing here. 5 hours +

03-02-10, 01:47 PM	#44
Seafireliv Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 93 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	It really doesn`t matter how well this DRM 24\7 works or not. The whole practise is wrong and unacceptable for a SINGLE PLAYER game.