[REL] FOTRS Ultimate Project

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

this is a periscope view of the port of Takanabe. Where is the frickin dock? it was visible from external view but not the periscope.

OK, checked-out, and I don't know why you aren't seeing the dock there. In fact, you're not seeing the trees either. One of the docks in the game does not have a 2D image, and there are problems seeing that, but in this case it is the "Small_Pacific_Harbor_II.dat" and dds files, so there shouldn't be a problem. The only thing I can think of is the LOD distance. As an example:





The top image does not have the entire width of the dock in it, but you can see the cranes, etc. In the 2nd image, zooming back, a lot of the detail is lost. You see a "hole" in the dock to the left, and a lot of the cranes have disappeared, or turned into just a single vertical line, as to the right. The lighthouse lights disappear last, just after the the 2nd image above.

[torpedobait]

Originally Posted by Bleiente

Better not use your memory on the new system.

By the way...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=239617

OMG! I just now saw all the BDay greetings...Thanks for the good wishes!

[Immelmann]

Looks to me like v.80 has tweaked the next unit camera to allow close in views. I like that! I notice that the camera position remains the same if you press "." and go to the next boat in your contacts. I'm not sure that I remember if that has been standard behavior for that feature in the past.

One thing I thought that I should also mention. It may be that nothing can be done about it anyway. But I'm going to ask. Any chance we can get the moon to reflect the same color off the water as it is in the sky?

Originally Posted by torpedobait

OMG! I just now saw all the BDay greetings...Thanks for the good wishes!

But you have to write this in the appropriate post so that the well-wishers also notice...

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

OK, checked-out, and I don't know why you aren't seeing the dock there. In fact, you're not seeing the trees either. One of the docks in the game does not have a 2D image, and there are problems seeing that, but in this case it is the "Small_Pacific_Harbor_II.dat" and dds files, so there shouldn't be a problem. The only thing I can think of is the LOD distance. As an example:

The top image does not have the entire width of the dock in it, but you can see the cranes, etc. In the 2nd image, zooming back, a lot of the detail is lost. You see a "hole" in the dock to the left, and a lot of the cranes have disappeared, or turned into just a single vertical line, as to the right. The lighthouse lights disappear last, just after the the 2nd image above.

can't say about level of distance. if you look at the distance to target dial, it is approx 4500 yds so that is approx how far i was from the target which was moored at the dock. i would also estimate that i was on high-power or zoomed in on the periscope view.

is that too far away to see any detail? beats me.
i can try and remember to head back that way on the next patrol in the area and check it out but i do remember that things got very shallow at the 4500 yd marker.

[merc4ulfate]

Originally Posted by Frost1349

Ahoy
my very first post here.
First of all, thanks for the good mod.
Unfortunately, I have a CTD.
I use Large Address Aware and it's stable.
I was transferred to Pearl Habour after the last patrol to take over a new boat.
After the briefing and start of Patrollie outside the port, there was a big graphic error and then CTD.
I loaded the last Patrollie and rejected the new boat. Now a new mission could be started. No CTD.

What did you do with the sonar guys ??? they are deaf.

Welcome Frost:

Yes the sonar man is deaf but only at certain depths and angle on the bow from the target. I have had targets at zero angle on the bow at periscope depth and the sonar man heard nothing. I can go to the sonar station and hear ships miles away. The sonar crew set up is a bit odd to me.

[merc4ulfate]

Hey Prop I just had my third CTD

I can't tell you exactly where I was. I left midway Dec. 1942 and was off Hokkaido for a five day stay at the Tojo Astoria. It is now Jan. 1943

I had found some rich fishing and had about 50,000 tonnes. A German Large Oiler and Diasura (or something like that) 25mm Were two of the many ships to go down. The Diasura (SP) was a tiny gun boat with AA cannons. I sank it with one deck gun hit at 4000 yards. It did not ride in the water properly however:



YES IT IS OUT OF THE WATER


Upon leaving the area I was spotted by two fighter bombers and dove to avoid them. At about 60 feet the game crashed.

Same fault I had on the last one. c0000005

Another odd issue I discovered was the Diasura at periscope depth was spotted 7900 yards away by the crew while a merchant 1000 yards off my bow was not reported.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by Immelmann

... Any chance we can get the moon to reflect the same color off the water as it is in the sky?

I'm not sure if multiple pictures are allowed in the reflection, but that's what it is, is a picture of light, not an actual reflection. You might also notice that it doesn't do a very good job of "varying" its intensity when a cloud passes by... Maybe someone knows more about what can be done with a "reflection" in the dat file...

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

can't say about level of distance...

If you compare the relative appearance of the hill behind town, my pix are from a further distance away than yours - but I don't know if the settings for the game and / or video card make a difference there or not. I'm further back though, and I can see some of the trees still, even though I am starting to lose detail on the dock...

Originally Posted by merc4ulfate

... Yes the sonar man is deaf but only at certain depths and angle on the bow...

CapnScurvy has done some tweaking on that for the next release. However, one thing to keep in mind about the sonar, and the radar too, is that once you have "visual", you will often lose both sonar and radar, unless you yourself are at the station. Sometimes doing the "follow nearest target" holds, sometimes not...

Originally Posted by merc4ulfate

Hey Prop I just had my third CTD...

You're driving your crew too hard mister! - The error message from Windows will almost always be very similar, just due to the way the game runs. Windows can only "point to" SH4.exe and say "He did it! Wasn't me!" I'll keep digging into the Tambor / Gar boats and their assigned missions, as well as traffic off the Japanese coast for bad "calls". That is a Daihatsu barge, btw, and they might be empty running light, or loaded with solders or a vehcle, or mounted with guns. In any case, they should NOT be that far out of the water, so I've got another test mission to run. Maybe if s7rikeback sees this, he can look at the Daihatsu's files, and make sure we didn't miss something with it. Just do NOT let the airplanes see you! Do you think the CTD may have co-incided with the bomb(s) impacting the water? Did you catch what type they were?... Thanks folks!

[s7rikeback]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I'm not sure if multiple pictures are allowed in the reflection, but that's what it is, is a picture of light, not an actual reflection. You might also notice that it doesn't do a very good job of "varying" its intensity when a cloud passes by... Maybe someone knows more about what can be done with a "reflection" in the dat file...



If you compare the relative appearance of the hill behind town, my pix are from a further distance away than yours - but I don't know if the settings for the game and / or video card make a difference there or not. I'm further back though, and I can see some of the trees still, even though I am starting to lose detail on the dock...



CapnScurvy has done some tweaking on that for the next release. However, one thing to keep in mind about the sonar, and the radar too, is that once you have "visual", you will often lose both sonar and radar, unless you yourself are at the station. Sometimes doing the "follow nearest target" holds, sometimes not...

You're driving your crew too hard mister! - The error message from Windows will almost always be very similar, just due to the way the game runs. Windows can only "point to" SH4.exe and say "He did it! Wasn't me!" I'll keep digging into the Tambor / Gar boats and their assigned missions, as well as traffic off the Japanese coast for bad "calls". That is a Daihatsu barge, btw, and they might be empty running light, or loaded with solders or a vehcle, or mounted with guns. In any case, they should NOT be that far out of the water, so I've got another test mission to run. Maybe if s7rikeback sees this, he can look at the Daihatsu's files, and make sure we didn't miss something with it. Just do NOT let the airplanes see you! Do you think the CTD may have co-incided with the bomb(s) impacting the water? Did you catch what type they were?... Thanks folks!

Gotcha propbeanie, will take a look after the school run, this morning.

No problems found with the files, both the museum & in-game files are working fine

[merc4ulfate]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

CapnScurvy has done some tweaking on that for the next release. However, one thing to keep in mind about the sonar, and the radar too, is that once you have "visual", you will often lose both sonar and radar, unless you yourself are at the station. Sometimes doing the "follow nearest target" holds, sometimes not...

You're driving your crew too hard mister! - The error message from Windows will almost always be very similar, just due to the way the game runs. Windows can only "point to" SH4.exe and say "He did it! Wasn't me!" I'll keep digging into the Tambor / Gar boats and their assigned missions, as well as traffic off the Japanese coast for bad "calls". That is a Daihatsu barge, btw, and they might be empty running light, or loaded with solders or a vehcle, or mounted with guns. In any case, they should NOT be that far out of the water, so I've got another test mission to run. Maybe if s7rikeback sees this, he can look at the Daihatsu's files, and make sure we didn't miss something with it. Just do NOT let the airplanes see you! Do you think the CTD may have co-incided with the bomb(s) impacting the water? Did you catch what type they were?... Thanks folks!

I was in a Gato Class. USS Drum.

The Daihatsu had the weapon mounts shown in the third photo below, weapons pointed forward. and it was very rough seas. One freighter broke up before I even fire my first fish.

The planes I do not recall. I know they were fighter bombers and they went dove over me as if they were dropping bombs but nothing happened. When they came back around I was diving and then the CTD.

[propbeanie]

I sailed from Midway, January 14, 1943 merc, went to Kyushu via the Mariannas, and now I'm going northeast along the coast, pretending to be the Galloping Ghost... no issues whatsoever thus far. I have noticed one thing though: if you use TC over 2048, the audio stream can and does go whonky at times, just like in Stock... I have not sunk anything yet, thank you very much BuOrd... sheesh. Two under-runners, and two klunkers... No explosions even.

What are your system specs merc4ulfate? Are you certain that the LAA is set correctly on the SH4.exe file? Do you ever "shell-out" to Windows with the Windows key, the <alt> or <Ctrl><Tab> combinations? Even if your game is "paused"

[Sniper450]

odd...my tc maxes out at 2048.

[propbeanie]

I'm experimenting some more, trying to break things as well as cdrsubron7 or merc4ulfate or KaleunMarco can... - There is good reason to keep it at 2048x

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Sniper450

odd...my tc maxes out at 2048.

you dont want it any higher.
trust me.

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

OK, checked-out, and I don't know why you aren't seeing the dock there. In fact, you're not seeing the trees either. One of the docks in the game does not have a 2D image, and there are problems seeing that, but in this case it is the "Small_Pacific_Harbor_II.dat" and dds files, so there shouldn't be a problem. The only thing I can think of is the LOD distance. As an example:

The top image does not have the entire width of the dock in it, but you can see the cranes, etc. In the 2nd image, zooming back, a lot of the detail is lost. You see a "hole" in the dock to the left, and a lot of the cranes have disappeared, or turned into just a single vertical line, as to the right. The lighthouse lights disappear last, just after the the 2nd image above.

ok....i think i get it now.
i went back to Takanabe at the end of my last patrol and the results were the same: no dock visible from my periscope.

when i docked i checked my Graphics settings and discovered that some dumbass had set my Terrain Graphics to less than 5. (this one only goes to 10) more than likely this is reason that you see a dock and i do not. dumbass.






i'll verify on my next patrol.