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Old 09-18-2018, 11:14 AM   #1
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Does anyone have an idea with a watertight cover on the guns?
What would she disappear at the command "Ready guns!"
and appears when diving or "Cease fire!"
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Old 09-18-2018, 01:14 PM   #2
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Best without hacking code? Give the caps a visible underwater only.
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Old 09-18-2018, 01:18 PM   #3
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Nicely detailed model

I will asnswer your question with another question: were those guns actually covered?

Serviced and greased whenever possible yes, antirust coating being re-applied at the first sign of deterioration, yes, barrel closed with a plug when the gun had not to be fired, yes, but covered with a watertight coat... mmm, I doubt that. Putting in place and/or removing such a cover might have meant a waste of time in circumstances where a crash dive or a swift gun attack were needed. Not to mention the fact that the extra drag caused by a cover or, even worst, the retention of air under it, might have affected negatively the handling of the submarine once submerged.
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:16 PM   #4
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:00 PM   #5
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I was surprised in my readings on the U-Boat War how many times gun crews on U-boats were injured and/or killed from forgetting to remove the tampions from the muzzles of Deck Guns and AA guns during the course of the war.

So, yes both the Deck Guns and AA guns had muzzle stoppers (tampions), and yes, during the heat of action they were occasionally forgotten with predictably bad results. They were considered vital enough, however, to be used during the duration of the war.

An example: U 123 on one of her American patrols had their correspondent badly wounded when the 20mm barrel burst because the tampion had not been removed by the gunner.

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An example: U 123 on one of her American patrols had their correspondent badly wounded when the 20mm barrel burst because the tampion had not been removed by the gunner.
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Yes!
For memory two more incidents on U-156 (105mm) and U-181 (37mm) come. Two corpses, not counting the wounded ...
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:14 PM   #7
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I was surprised in my readings on the U-Boat War how many times gun crews on U-boats were injured and/or killed from forgetting to remove the tampions from the muzzles of Deck Guns and AA guns during the course of the war.
Then it would seem to me that having the tampion graphically on the entire time might be more realistic.
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Old 09-22-2018, 11:31 AM   #8
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moin, moin ...
.... please take a look at the Mechanic in my "Mod UCS 3.1" (for WAC or CCoM) with the S3D. That would be a Solution.
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sorry is a "Google Englisch" ... lol...
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:20 PM   #9
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a-kermit "googlisch" is perfectly acceptable!
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moin, moin ...
.... please take a look at the Mechanic in my "Mod UCS 3.1" (for WAC or CCoM) with the S3D. That would be a Solution.
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sorry is a "Google Englisch" ... lol...
But I don't understand at all.
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I imagine a deck gun barrel exploding would make quite a mess of the gun crew, in the heat of battle with the adrenaline and excitement pumping I can imagine it would be quite easy to forget to remove the barrel cap
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moin ... moin ...
was meant ...
In "UCS 3.01" I had the missing sounds for some Events built in.
For this I hada spezial mechanics hinüfftelt. As an example, the Scots.
With the Command "Men on Deckgun" the Scots open and the corresponding sound is played.
This also works with the cover pipe covergun.
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:25 AM   #13
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For those who might try to pronounce it phonetically, or look it up in a dictionary (some people actually still use those!)...

...in those English speaking navies that I was associated with (both English-English and American-English) "tampion" is pronounced "tompkin".

Must have come from the same chaps that pronounce "Featherstonehouse" as "Feastinghase" or "Home" as "Hume"...carry on old bean, cheerio!

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Old 10-16-2018, 07:35 AM   #14
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moin, moin "Anvar1061"


"Testi1978" had once designed such a Cover, in one of his Mod`s.
If you have the 3D Modell, you can sendt it to me, will look ... what I can do here.
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for WAC 5.01:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/upuce4...WAC_5.01%29.7z
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3ood5k...WAC_5.01%29.7z
http://www.mediafire.com/file/qowc1y...WAC_5.01%29.7z
for CCoM 12:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/twhxew....0_ready%29.7z
http://www.mediafire.com/file/yzpwm9....0_ready%29.7z
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zzllud....0_ready%29.7z
http://www.mediafire.com/file/7ux5se...t_WS-GUI%29.7z
http://www.mediafire.com/file/db9v17..._WS-GUI_%29.7z
.....
..... or look in the DMP Forum
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