Facebook debuts, social-networking stocks fall - Page 6

AVGWarhawk · 05-23-12, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'll blow up your argument in one word: Google.

And I will see your one word and Google this:

http://www.investopedia.com/features...#axzz1vifbSiWo

Anyone who really puts their faith and money in a virtual .com is much more of a risk taker than I will ever be. FB offer nothing. I'll said it again. America has been hoodwinked by Wall St again.

mookiemookie · 05-23-12, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

And I will see your one word and Google this:

http://www.investopedia.com/features...#axzz1vifbSiWo

Anyone who really puts their faith and money in a virtual .com is much more of a risk taker than I will ever be. FB offer nothing. I'll said it again. America has been hoodwinked by Wall St again.

The tech crash had nothing to do with Google, so your rebuttal isn't much of a rebuttal. Google's a sound company with sound fundamentals and valuations. It came to market at $85 back in 04. It's now trading at over $600 a share, and at an 18 P/E. There's no comparison to the tech bubble where P/E's of over 100 for unproven companies were the norm. And my one word counter rebuttal to your non-rebuttal: Apple. $566 a share and that's at a PE of 13.81. To say all tech stocks are worthless because once upon a time people made stupid bets on things like pets.com is pretty narrow minded.

GOOG and AAPL are also the type of company that people so conveniently forget about when they wistfully get all teary eyed and say the U.S. doesn't make anything anymore. I'll take intellectual innovation over manual labor any day.

AVGWarhawk · 05-23-12, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

The tech crash had nothing to do with Google, so your rebuttal isn't much of a rebuttal. Google's a sound company with sound fundamentals and valuations. It came to market at $85 back in 04. It's now trading at over $600 a share, and at an 18 P/E. There's no comparison to the tech bubble where P/E's of over 100 for unproven companies were the norm. And my one word counter rebuttal to your non-rebuttal: Apple. $566 a share and that's at a PE of 13.81. To say all tech stocks are worthless because once upon a time people made stupid bets on things like pets.com is pretty narrow minded.

GOOG and AAPL are also the type of company that people so conveniently forget about when they wistfully get all teary eyed and say the U.S. doesn't make anything anymore. I'll take intellectual innovation over manual labor any day.

I have said in every post that this smells of a .com crash. I did not say Google had anything to do with the crash. It was not a rebuttal. How strong Google is does not persuade me to invest. Facebook is another .com to me. Google is another .com to me and can take dump much like the .com bust of 2002. Google ticks because Google has become a noun and a verb in the English Language. The commercials for Bing and saying Bing when something is found using Bing just did not catch on.

Apple...offers products. Ipod, Iphone. What at Apple USA is made other than a program to go on devices made outside the US? The Ipods etc are made overseas. Sweatshops. http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...172800495.html But Apple says that's bunk and we all take it hook, line and sinker. Apple is not a .com company. What does Apple make in the USA?

Did I state anywhere that all tech stocks are worthless? Differing opinion does not correlate to narrow mindedness.

mookiemookie · 05-23-12, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I have said in every post that this smells of a .com crash. It was not a rebuttal. How strong Google is does not persuade me to invest. Facebook is another .com to me Google is another .com to me and can take dump much like the .com bust of 2002. Google ticks because Google has become a noun and a verb in the English Language. The commercials for Bing and saying Bing when something is found using Bing just did not catch on.

Apple...offers products. Ipod, Iphone. What at Apple USA is made other than a program to go on devices made outside the US? The Ipods etc are made overseas. http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...172800495.html Apple is not a .com company. What does Apple make in the USA?

Did I state anywhere that all tech stocks are worthless? Differing opinion does not correlate to narrow mindedness.

I think we're debating different things here.

AVGWarhawk · 05-23-12, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I think we're debating different things here.

I think you are right!

mookiemookie · 05-23-12, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I think you are right!

AVGWarhawk · 05-23-12, 03:29 PM

The true losers in the entire FB extravaganza is once again...the American public.

Zucker should be ashamed. I think I'm moving operations over to Google+.

mookiemookie · 05-23-12, 03:43 PM

Zuckerberg has been very quiet the past few days, hasn't he?

I read something that said he would laugh any investment banker out of the room that didn't value the company at at least $100 billion. That's how they ended up with the bloated and unrealistic IPO price they did.

STEED · 05-26-12, 01:19 PM

Look who has been at it again...

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Facebook banks under fire after helping bet against float
Anger at Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan loaning shares to hedge funds wanting to short the stock

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...t-7789316.html

Try Naked Shorting Stock which is illegal.

Gerald · 05-28-12, 01:15 AM

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THERE were two grand illusions about the American economy in the first decade of the 21st century. One was the idea that housing prices were no longer tethered to normal economic trends, and instead would just keep going up and up. The second was the idea that in the age of Web 2.0, we were well on our way to figuring out how to make lots and lots of money on the Internet. The first idea collapsed along with housing prices and the stock market in 2007 and 2008. But the Web 2.0 illusion survived long enough to cost credulous investors a small fortune last week, in Facebook’s disaster of an initial public offering.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/op...me&ref=general

Note: May 26, 2012

Skybird · 05-29-12, 06:01 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...#ixzz1vbjh273C

http://www.businessinsider.com/faceb...-growth-2012-4

Onkel Neal · 04-10-18, 02:42 PM

Zuckerberg on the hot seat. He's pretty adept at dodging questions by saying, "We give our users the option to...."

Btw the stock is at $160, from a high of $190. My mom bought a ton at $43 against the advise of her advisor.

mapuc · 04-10-18, 03:08 PM

In the news here they have said FB could be regulated through laws and the word divided have also been mentioned.

If the Senate or the Congress create some laws to regulate FB, what would prevent Zuckerberg from pick up his things(FB) and move to an another country where there isn't so much regulation on Internet.

Markus

Rockstar · 04-10-18, 04:39 PM

Those on the investigating committee now have power over Zuckerberg he is in the hot seat. If he wants to see his job Facebook survive he has one option. Give government access to what it wants when it wants and all will be forgiven. The entire idea that he was involved in any wrong doing will be seen as just a simple mistake. Zuckerberg will be placed back upon his high horse, heck he might even get a public apology. But Uncle will have gotten what he wanted.

mapuc · 04-10-18, 04:48 PM

Facebook has build up a monopoly on the Internet in the social media sector.

The question is

is it FB who is responsible for this ?

Or

Is it the member them self.

Really don't know how to explain this

I have FB friends who seems to be on FB 14-16 hours per day and in the news I have heard about people who have FB up and running all day long, even when they sleep and wake when they hear this bling sound, so they can read a response and thereby write a comment

Is this FB's fault that people have been addicted to FB ?

Another thing
During the weekly hearing in the Danish Parlament the Prime Minister said in an answer to an another politic leader.

The Danish people is very restrictive when it comes to deliver personal information to the public, who are regulated by laws and regulations
While they don't have any problems or any doubts giving away information about they life, surf history and other things to FB.

Markus

05-23-12, 03:29 PM	#82
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The true losers in the entire FB extravaganza is once again...the American public. Zucker should be ashamed. I think I'm moving operations over to Google+. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-23-12, 03:43 PM	#83
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Zuckerberg has been very quiet the past few days, hasn't he? I read something that said he would laugh any investment banker out of the room that didn't value the company at at least $100 billion. That's how they ended up with the bloated and unrealistic IPO price they did. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

05-29-12, 06:01 PM	#86
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,481 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...#ixzz1vbjh273C http://www.businessinsider.com/faceb...-growth-2012-4 __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-10-18, 02:42 PM	#87
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Zuckerberg on the hot seat. He's pretty adept at dodging questions by saying, "We give our users the option to...." Btw the stock is at $160, from a high of $190. My mom bought a ton at $43 against the advise of her advisor. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

04-10-18, 04:39 PM	#89
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,828 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Those on the investigating committee now have power over Zuckerberg he is in the hot seat. If he wants to see his job Facebook survive he has one option. Give government access to what it wants when it wants and all will be forgiven. The entire idea that he was involved in any wrong doing will be seen as just a simple mistake. Zuckerberg will be placed back upon his high horse, heck he might even get a public apology. But Uncle will have gotten what he wanted. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

04-10-18, 03:08 PM	#88
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,859 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	In the news here they have said FB could be regulated through laws and the word divided have also been mentioned. If the Senate or the Congress create some laws to regulate FB, what would prevent Zuckerberg from pick up his things(FB) and move to an another country where there isn't so much regulation on Internet. Markus

04-10-18, 04:48 PM	#90
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,859 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Facebook has build up a monopoly on the Internet in the social media sector. The question is is it FB who is responsible for this ? Or Is it the member them self. Really don't know how to explain this I have FB friends who seems to be on FB 14-16 hours per day and in the news I have heard about people who have FB up and running all day long, even when they sleep and wake when they hear this bling sound, so they can read a response and thereby write a comment Is this FB's fault that people have been addicted to FB ? Another thing During the weekly hearing in the Danish Parlament the Prime Minister said in an answer to an another politic leader. The Danish people is very restrictive when it comes to deliver personal information to the public, who are regulated by laws and regulations While they don't have any problems or any doubts giving away information about they life, surf history and other things to FB. Markus