SH4 and Vista/Windows 7 Installation

AVGWarhawk · 04-23-09, 11:22 AM

Note - Vista proceedures are different from other OS in that only with vista do you need to change the normal install location for the game, all other OS are installed normally.

For those members that are moving on to Vista as an OS, do not think Vista will not let you run the game. I run Vista 64 Home Premium and SH4 runs perfectly. There are however a few things recommended! From personal experience I did the following to allow Vista to run SH4:

1. (vista users only) Create a root folder for your game(s). I created a root folder off the hard drive and named it GAMES2. I named it GAMES2 because there is a GAMES folder supplied by the Vista OS. Less confusion. This folder contains the MS provided OS games, ie chess, etc. So, you can name it KILLER SUB GAMES if you want. Up to you!

2a. (vista users only) Once done, insert your SH4 disc for installation. When prompted showing the files will load to the X86 files, click Browse and navigate to your newly created root folder for your games. Click OK and let it load.

2b. for all other OS install the game normally by clicking OK and let it load.

3. Once complete, install your patches or 1.5 add on disc. No worries, the install will find your UBI folder and load correctly.

4. As a side note, sometime the very first time you start SH4 with Vista, the menu screen will be black yet the music is playing, etc. No problem, open up the task manager and shut down the game. Go to your video card tweak program and reset the card to the default values(usually just a box to check and click OK. Start the game and the menu should not be black anymore. The game should look as it usually does. Close it out. Go back to your video card tweak program and reset the card to your liking. That's it, you will never have to do that again(unless you do a complete reinstall down the road)

5. Install JSGME. Runs like it does in XP. No issues here.

As far as running the install as administrator, no harm in doing that. I did not have do this. Some folks UAC are different from Vista OS to Vista OS. That is about it really. If anyone has anything to add, please do

silent killer · 04-23-09, 11:49 AM

hi AVGWARHAWK i have run the game on vista 32 bit system since vista came out with no problems,switched to vista 64 bit home prem. no problems,i use 2 hard drive, 1 for the op syst and the 2nd. hard drive for games,

AVGWarhawk · 04-23-09, 11:58 AM

Thanks for the info

. The more info provided with tips and tricks will help those having a problem getting the game going with Vista

jmardlin · 04-23-09, 03:35 PM

One thing with vista 64 and mods, when you use jsgme vista may create compatibility files in a separate folder. If you have problems switching mods you will need to delete these then the mods will function correctly again. You can click on the tab in sh4 folder or open it in your appdata/virtualstore/"your install location here"/Ubisoft/Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific folder.

04-25-09, 04:00 PM

I'm running Vista 64 as well, and have not encountered any problems with SH3, SH4, or JSGME.

Chef · 04-25-09, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcdem

I'm running Vista 64 as well, and have not encountered any problems with SH3, SH4, or JSGME.

Same here for SH4 and JSGME.

Chef · 04-27-09, 06:27 PM

I'm not sure the mods are actually working though.

AVGWarhawk · 04-28-09, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chef

I'm not sure the mods are actually working though.

What mods are you using? If it is a large mod pack like TMO/OM/RFB...you will notice a difference from stock right off the bat!

Chef · 04-28-09, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What mods are you using? If it is a large mod pack like TMO/OM/RFB...you will notice a difference from stock right off the bat!

RFB and RSRD through JSGME. Never ran the game stock so I have nothing to compare it to.

I have everything in a separate folder called GAMES.

AVGWarhawk · 04-28-09, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chef

RFB and RSRD through JSGME. Never ran the game stock so I have nothing to compare it to.

I have everything in a separate folder called GAMES.

Well then, what does your opening of the game look and sound like? Is there a strange poem being read to you before the game loads? Is it the usual UBI logo and music playing when you load the game? If not, your mods are working.

Chef · 04-28-09, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Well then, what does your opening of the game look and sound like? Is there a strange poem being read to you before the game loads? Is it the usual UBI logo and music playing when you load the game? If not, your mods are working.

UBI logo and whacky poem with clouds in the sky.

Forza4Life · 05-28-09, 11:48 AM

im actually running the RC 7100 of Windows 7, (the version of windows thats going to replace Vista) and im happy to report that on my system, SH4 with TM 1.7 overhaul and RSRD installed, the game runs better in windows 7 than in vista. I am betting 10 fps more. Im not benchmarker, but i do know when i see improvement. So if any of you guys out there are ho-humming about the new version of windows, you may want to look a little harder, because most of my games see a definite improvement in frames per second.

Justaguyinnc · 06-05-09, 09:06 AM

Glad to see you guys found Vista 32 has no problems with SH4...

One thing, I run Vista32.. like it... But install all my games into C:\Games on Vista to avoid the nasty ProgramsFile folder and rights...

SHIV runs fine from Games folder... except one thing...
You MUST install to Default to play ONLINE!

I play online some/alot... and found if your runing Vista32 and DO NOT let it default install in Programs File folder...
well, you will KICK everyone online your playing with once one of your torpedo's hit something..
You will stay connected..but no one else will..

It's not them... it's the install in Games Directory..

We tested this over and over.. tis true..
Once installed in default...all play well together online..
I know it sounds strange..but it's true..
it does not matter if you Host the game or Join one.

So I am assuming those that did install under C:\Games instead of default folder do not play online?
Try a game over at http://comsubspac.com/ to test the results.

If you never plan on playing online..C:\games works fine.. go figure..

Mine works fine using default install.. Only game I own that I do install to default on Vista!
and I use many different mod setups with no problems.. Just make sure to install as admin..

UrPeaceKeeper · 08-05-09, 06:32 PM

For those curious about Windows 7, I'm currently running the Release Candidate Build 7100 of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

Here is the Computer:
Gigabyte GA-MA780FXT-UD5P
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor Overclocked to 3.525 GHz (from 3.00 GHz)
8 Gigs of GSK Gaming Memory running 8-8-8-21 timings
Sapphire Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 2GB (256 bit, GDDR5)
Zalman GS-1000 Case
Zalman ZM1000-hp 1000W PSU
WD 7200 RPM 1 TB HDD
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

Underload she runs cool and the game plays AMAZINGLY. For those of you waiting for Windows 7 it is a HUGE step above Vista. Previously I was running SH4 1.5 on Vista 64 bit and this is a much better rig than my previous one but the game runs very smoothly. If you can wait and can afford Windows 7 it will be worth every penny!

09-22-09, 06:42 AM

Hello..
I read your post and I really want to play games on my windows vista. I think this information will be useful for me. Everybody like this. You have given really very good information on SH4 and Vista Installation. Thank you very much for sharing this information with us. You have done a great job so keep doing good work.

04-23-09, 11:22 AM	#1
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	SH4 and Vista/Windows 7 Installation Note - Vista proceedures are different from other OS in that only with vista do you need to change the normal install location for the game, all other OS are installed normally. For those members that are moving on to Vista as an OS, do not think Vista will not let you run the game. I run Vista 64 Home Premium and SH4 runs perfectly. There are however a few things recommended! From personal experience I did the following to allow Vista to run SH4: 1. (vista users only) Create a root folder for your game(s). I created a root folder off the hard drive and named it GAMES2. I named it GAMES2 because there is a GAMES folder supplied by the Vista OS. Less confusion. This folder contains the MS provided OS games, ie chess, etc. So, you can name it KILLER SUB GAMES if you want. Up to you! 2a. (vista users only) Once done, insert your SH4 disc for installation. When prompted showing the files will load to the X86 files, click Browse and navigate to your newly created root folder for your games. Click OK and let it load. 2b. for all other OS install the game normally by clicking OK and let it load. 3. Once complete, install your patches or 1.5 add on disc. No worries, the install will find your UBI folder and load correctly. 4. As a side note, sometime the very first time you start SH4 with Vista, the menu screen will be black yet the music is playing, etc. No problem, open up the task manager and shut down the game. Go to your video card tweak program and reset the card to the default values(usually just a box to check and click OK. Start the game and the menu should not be black anymore. The game should look as it usually does. Close it out. Go back to your video card tweak program and reset the card to your liking. That's it, you will never have to do that again(unless you do a complete reinstall down the road) 5. Install JSGME. Runs like it does in XP. No issues here. As far as running the install as administrator, no harm in doing that. I did not have do this. Some folks UAC are different from Vista OS to Vista OS. That is about it really. If anyone has anything to add, please do __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road Last edited by Webster; 09-28-13 at 11:37 AM.

04-23-09, 11:49 AM	#2
silent killer Soundman Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kingston Ontario Posts: 141 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	sh4 and vista hi AVGWARHAWK i have run the game on vista 32 bit system since vista came out with no problems,switched to vista 64 bit home prem. no problems,i use 2 hard drive, 1 for the op syst and the 2nd. hard drive for games, __________________

04-23-09, 11:58 AM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info. The more info provided with tips and tricks will help those having a problem getting the game going with Vista __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-23-09, 03:35 PM	#4
jmardlin Soundman Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Millington, MI USA Posts: 145 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 8	One thing with vista 64 and mods, when you use jsgme vista may create compatibility files in a separate folder. If you have problems switching mods you will need to delete these then the mods will function correctly again. You can click on the tab in sh4 folder or open it in your appdata/virtualstore/"your install location here"/Ubisoft/Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific folder. __________________ http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/jmardlin

04-27-09, 06:27 PM	#7
Chef Seaman Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 41 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure the mods are actually working though. __________________ Commanding U-52 and the USS Balao, how confusing.

04-25-09, 04:00 PM	#5
rcdem Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm running Vista 64 as well, and have not encountered any problems with SH3, SH4, or JSGME.

05-28-09, 11:48 AM	#12
Forza4Life Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 7 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	im actually running the RC 7100 of Windows 7, (the version of windows thats going to replace Vista) and im happy to report that on my system, SH4 with TM 1.7 overhaul and RSRD installed, the game runs better in windows 7 than in vista. I am betting 10 fps more. Im not benchmarker, but i do know when i see improvement. So if any of you guys out there are ho-humming about the new version of windows, you may want to look a little harder, because most of my games see a definite improvement in frames per second.

06-05-09, 09:06 AM	#13
Justaguyinnc Seaman Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 37 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	Glad to see you guys found Vista 32 has no problems with SH4... One thing, I run Vista32.. like it... But install all my games into C:\Games on Vista to avoid the nasty ProgramsFile folder and rights... SHIV runs fine from Games folder... except one thing... You MUST install to Default to play ONLINE! I play online some/alot... and found if your runing Vista32 and DO NOT let it default install in Programs File folder... well, you will KICK everyone online your playing with once one of your torpedo's hit something.. You will stay connected..but no one else will.. It's not them... it's the install in Games Directory.. We tested this over and over.. tis true.. Once installed in default...all play well together online.. I know it sounds strange..but it's true.. it does not matter if you Host the game or Join one. So I am assuming those that did install under C:\Games instead of default folder do not play online? Try a game over at http://comsubspac.com/ to test the results. If you never plan on playing online..C:\games works fine.. go figure.. Mine works fine using default install.. Only game I own that I do install to default on Vista! and I use many different mod setups with no problems.. Just make sure to install as admin..

08-05-09, 06:32 PM	#14
UrPeaceKeeper Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 106 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	For those curious about Windows 7, I'm currently running the Release Candidate Build 7100 of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit. Here is the Computer: Gigabyte GA-MA780FXT-UD5P AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor Overclocked to 3.525 GHz (from 3.00 GHz) 8 Gigs of GSK Gaming Memory running 8-8-8-21 timings Sapphire Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 2GB (256 bit, GDDR5) Zalman GS-1000 Case Zalman ZM1000-hp 1000W PSU WD 7200 RPM 1 TB HDD Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Underload she runs cool and the game plays AMAZINGLY. For those of you waiting for Windows 7 it is a HUGE step above Vista. Previously I was running SH4 1.5 on Vista 64 bit and this is a much better rig than my previous one but the game runs very smoothly. If you can wait and can afford Windows 7 it will be worth every penny!

09-22-09, 06:42 AM	#15
mathewhayden Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Hello.. I read your post and I really want to play games on my windows vista. I think this information will be useful for me. Everybody like this. You have given really very good information on SH4 and Vista Installation. Thank you very much for sharing this information with us. You have done a great job so keep doing good work.