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Schroeder · 03-26-09, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

I found myself doing a flat spin after getting a bit of prop wash from a JU88.

For what I know there is no prop wash from other aircraft in this game.

Dowly · 03-26-09, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

For what I know there is no prop wash from other aircraft in this game.

I think so too.

IIRC, this is one of the new features they've talked about for BoB:SoW.

Oberon · 03-26-09, 09:38 AM

Ah, so that's what I did to you. Once again, my Hurricane didn't even get a scratch.
It would seem, however, that they are only invincible against other Hurricanes because the He-111 took my wing off quite nicely

'Repeat please!'

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 03-26-09, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

For what I know there is no prop wash from other aircraft in this game.

Well what happened was that I turned to port after shooting up a JU88s port engine and the suddenly went into a stall and then into a flat spin. Even if prop wash isn't modeled in-game it sure seemed like an effect of prop wash.

Raptor1 · 03-26-09, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

Raptor that is true that doesn't have the supercharger but the type I was talking about was the MKIIb. Here is a quote from the aircraft guide.
"Supercharger speeds should be set to speed 2 in combat or in climb if boost is 2-5 psi below max; otherwise use speed 1. Best performance altitude is between 1,500 and 2,800 meters for speed 1 and 4,500 and 6,500 for speed 2." So we can use stage one of the supercharger at least.

The Supercharger is on Stage 1 by default

As for the 88s, I found that shooting them in the middle of the wings ignites their fuel tanks way faster than blasting their engines would, try it

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 03-26-09, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

The Supercharger is on Stage 1 by default

As for the 88s, I found that shooting them in the middle of the wings ignites their fuel tanks way faster than blasting their engines would, try it

I will. Also did you know that you can kill enemy gunners and pilots by setting the Highgore to 1. But backup the orginal config file just in case.

Dowly · 03-26-09, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

I will. Also did you know that you can kill enemy gunners and pilots by setting the Highgore to 1. But backup the orginal config file just in case.

You can kill pilots & gunners with highgore=0, setting it to =1 only affects the graphics i.e. the pilot/gunner is leaning forward when dead.

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 03-26-09, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

You can kill pilots & gunners with highgore=0, setting it to =1 only affects the graphics i.e. the pilot/gunner is leaning forward when dead.

Oh I see, I really didn't know that with highgore=0 you could still kill the enemy gunners and pilots, but with highgore=1 you do have a better chance of knowing who got killed. Raptor1 I tryed your suggestion and this happened.

And for the heck of it two screenshots with highgore=1 on.

On the HE111 it seems that if you kill the top gunner, you also have a really good chance of killing the pilot!!!

Raptor1 · 03-26-09, 01:11 PM

Yeah, on certain planes there are blood effects and the pilot keels over, it's actually really useful for determining whether you killed the pilot or not (Was a point when we ran the Belgium campaign where I chased a Hurricane for 5 minutes only to figure out that the strange spiraling downwards was the result of a dead pilot

XabbaRus · 03-26-09, 01:13 PM

Well XabbaRus has been cleared fit for action on Friday unless someone is going up tonight..

the vampires at the clinic took a lot of blood though.

Schroeder · 03-26-09, 01:23 PM

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Well what happened was that I turned to port after shooting up a JU88s port engine and the suddenly went into a stall and then into a flat spin. Even if prop wash isn't modeled in-game it sure seemed like an effect of prop wash.

Sounds to me as if you just had pulled a bit too hard. Looks like a normal stall with wrong recovery technique. In a stall go to idle throttle, centre aileron and elevator and give full counter rudder until the spinning stops. Wait for the plane to pick up speed again and then you should be good to go again.
A prop wash does not push you into a stall it makes your plane go bumpy but that's all (At least according to the glider pilots at my local airfield who sometimes get towed into the air behind a propeller driven plane.)

BTW
The blood soaked cockpits only work on a few older aircraft. Most aircraft have no blood modeled for them (unless some mod changed that).

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 03-26-09, 02:00 PM

Schroeder, you might be right that I pulled too hard, the other problem was that I know the way to recover from a flat spin but it requires a lot of space between the plane and the ground and I didn't have that space. In other words if you flat spin at low alts your as good as dead.

Fincuan · 03-26-09, 02:42 PM

In some aircraft, such as all P-39s, counter-spin rudder isn't enough 99% of the time. You'll need counter-spin rudder, pro-spin ailerons and stick forwards.

XabbaRus · 03-26-09, 03:17 PM

I though for most aircraft anti spin is aileron into the spin, rudder against the spin and donw elevator.

Of course the P-39 just flat spins.

Fincuan · 03-26-09, 03:31 PM

Yeah that's what I thought too, but before I posted that I went ingame and tested it. Surprisingly it really is pro-spin ailerons.

03-26-09, 01:11 PM	#39
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Yeah, on certain planes there are blood effects and the pilot keels over, it's actually really useful for determining whether you killed the pilot or not (Was a point when we ran the Belgium campaign where I chased a Hurricane for 5 minutes only to figure out that the strange spiraling downwards was the result of a dead pilot __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-26-09, 01:13 PM	#40
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Well XabbaRus has been cleared fit for action on Friday unless someone is going up tonight.. the vampires at the clinic took a lot of blood though. __________________

03-26-09, 02:00 PM	#42
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,244 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Schroeder, you might be right that I pulled too hard, the other problem was that I know the way to recover from a flat spin but it requires a lot of space between the plane and the ground and I didn't have that space. In other words if you flat spin at low alts your as good as dead. __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

03-26-09, 03:17 PM	#44
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I though for most aircraft anti spin is aileron into the spin, rudder against the spin and donw elevator. Of course the P-39 just flat spins. __________________

03-26-09, 09:38 AM	#33
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Ah, so that's what I did to you. Once again, my Hurricane didn't even get a scratch. It would seem, however, that they are only invincible against other Hurricanes because the He-111 took my wing off quite nicely 'Repeat please!'

03-26-09, 02:42 PM	#43
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	In some aircraft, such as all P-39s, counter-spin rudder isn't enough 99% of the time. You'll need counter-spin rudder, pro-spin ailerons and stick forwards.

03-26-09, 03:31 PM	#45
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Yeah that's what I thought too, but before I posted that I went ingame and tested it. Surprisingly it really is pro-spin ailerons.