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Old 07-20-18, 08:27 AM   #8056
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44887513

Panic, PM May is making a dogs dinner of Brexit.
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Brussels must be told that the prime minister's blueprint for future UK-EU relations is "the final offer", Commons leader Andrea Leadsom has said.

Mrs Leadsom told The House magazine the Chequers plan must be taken seriously or the EU risked a "no deal" Brexit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44890199

I wonder if we're nearing the end game
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Old 07-20-18, 03:34 PM   #8057
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"A woman who was exposed to the nerve agent novichok in Amesbury, Wiltshire, has died in hospital. "
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-novichok-dies

"The package has been delivered"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-cctv-cameras/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...assassination/
Is there real evidence? Is the 'telegraph' a credible site?
How do you guard people against coming accidentally in contact with such stuff
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Old 07-20-18, 03:48 PM   #8058
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I see the EU is not very happy with PM May's latest botched Brexit plans. How bad this will get only time will tell.
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Old 07-20-18, 03:53 PM   #8059
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Is the 'telegraph' a credible site?

I don't think any news site is above 70% in being credible. As for the telegraph i would give it about 62%. It has slipped in the last few years heading towards the mass media in your face headlines that make you mad..sort of.
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Old 07-21-18, 05:18 AM   #8060
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Andrea Leadsom 'told cabinet she hated Chequers deal'
The pro-Leave Commons leader's private comments, revealed in leaked minutes, are in stark contrast to her public statements.

Leaked minutes of Theresa May's Chequers summit two weeks ago reveal Andrea Leadsom said she "hated" the prime minister's Brexit compromise and claimed it betrayed the result of the EU referendum.
https://news.sky.com/story/andrea-le...-deal-11444024

Another one who hated it but too weak to resign.
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Old 07-21-18, 06:51 AM   #8061
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Didn't someone say "We are all in this together"?
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Didn't someone say "We are all in this together"?
Dodgy Dave?
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John Major: 'I think Theresa May will survive'

The former prime minister said a leadership election would be "absolutely absurd" whilst speaking on The Andrew Marr Show.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-pol...y-will-survive


The Grey Man is right.
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Dominic Raab: We can get Brexit deal done by October
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I find that hard to believe.
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Old 07-22-18, 07:43 AM   #8065
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Dodgy Dave?
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Not if their is a transparent willingness from both sides.
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British reject May's Brexit plan, some turn to Boris and far right - poll
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Bloody twonks, Boris is clever yes but his attention span is very short and you need some one to be focus on the task and Boris is not that person.
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Old 07-23-18, 03:16 AM   #8067
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YouGov spoke to 1,668 adults in Britain on July 19 and 20, according to The Sunday Times, which did not provide other details about how the poll was conducted.
Pretty sketchy
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^ sketchy.. i take it the pro/contra numbers are still around 50/50.

"Brexit campaigner Nigel Farage and U.S. President Donald Trump’s former adviser Steve Bannon are in discussions about forming a new right-wing movement, according to The Sunday Times."

Ah, why don't they go to Iran? Because democracy lets them do what they want?
So let's say the population is roughly divided (or 48/52, whatever) and the likes of Bannon, Farage and Johnson know that.
So they want to form a right-wing movement and influence people with the usual right-wing populistic crap, so more people want to leave and support their "movement". Has this much to do with democracy?
Or isn't this only to serve their ego, put them in the spotlight, and penetrating what they think is right?
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This all is what you get if you let every clueless Peter and Mary have his vote, and let every parasitical Susan and every career-horny Paul "do politics".


And since even the "leaders" are anything but failsafe in their judgements and often wreak havob with their decisions, the only consequence to be learned from this is that one needs not to allow politicians every bigger playgrounds to sunbath their formidable egos on, but that yiu need to cut their range dramatically so that the fallout of their faults remains to be limited, small and hopefully: managable.



This is oen oif the biggest arguments of mine why I totally reject constrzuciton like xcontinetal centlaised govenrments like the U wants to become. Becasue if the playground a potlicans fails in increases by a factor of 100, so does the seriousness of the bad consequences of his mistakes.



If it calls itself "politician" and makes politically commanding its model to make its living, damage control is the utmost priority to focus on. "Trust" is the one quality that should be thrown out of the window, first, before anything else, immediately.



Nobody should be allowed to ever serve more than two terms in an government office, in a party, in a parliament. After two legislation periods, everybody has to leave politics again, forever. Nobody should be allowed to make a living by being politically engaged. Serving in government, should be seen as a burden, not as a benefit to crave for.



And nobody should be allowed to vote in elections who has no own skin in the game, but just lives of the system, and of the others.


Ah, an ideal world... Its discouraging, depressing, how far away form it we are.
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Democracy at its finest
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