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Old 12-13-2013, 08:10 AM   #16
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Devs have been asking to license your graphics engine, huh?
Based on what: those 4 year old 3GS water demo videos?
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:03 AM   #17
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Devs have been asking to license your graphics engine, huh?
Based on what: those 4 year old 3GS water demo videos?
This is sounding less and less like honest curiosity and more and more like badgering, bordering on trolling. You might want to think about the way you phrase things.
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That, of course, is not how I meant it.
But if that's how it's coming across, well then fine: I'll rephrase in the future, no problem.

However, my genuine question still stands.
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Old 12-14-2013, 05:33 AM   #19
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Excuse me, I feel a bit lost, what exactly is your question?
Anyway time to move some postings to off topic.
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:22 PM   #20
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The movie business is rotten to the core.
It seems, unfortunately, that I must now preface my every remark by saying:
This is a genuine, serious inquiry: Please elaborate on that.


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... the score is produced with a friend who was #1 in the german charts this year ....
This is a genuine, serious inquiry: What genre?


This is a genuine, serious inquiry:
What, by the way, were you thinking of charging for "WOTA: Seehund Type XXVIIb"?
Ballpark figure.

And will we see the new video before Christmas?
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It seems, unfortunately, that I must now preface my every remark by saying:
This is a genuine, serious inquiry: Please elaborate on that.
It's just the opposite to of the what's going on in the USA. When it comes to working in the movie business the USA are looking like a socialistic country compared to Germany.

Worst example: result of piece work is that I need less than 3 hours to edit a 50 minutes episode… (So I don't need much more than 3 minutes for a minute)

"Edit" in this case means repair the dubbing rubbish made in other countries (which already was aired!) for new DVD releases.
Repair the dubbing does NOT mean that you have any separated tracks, in worst case you have to edit the 5.1 and can be lucky if you have a separate music track to fill the holes somehow. And holes can be extreme! In some countries the dubbing is terrible, sync offsets up to a second if the editor had a bad moment are common (and those guys seem to have more bad moments than good). At the end the whole thing must be perfect, you have to detect any clicks in the original material and use the pencil tool to correct them, of course all those episodes are in a foreign language that you don't speak… if it's not 100% lip sync everywhere or you missed a single click then we risk a reject with contract penalty - all edited episodes will be checked by another person, if you had any errors in three episodes then you will be out. A finished 50 minutes episode usually has 1600-2200 crossfades per track. 1600-2200 in 3 hours… if you are slower then you will get less episodes to work on than the other team members. …piece work slaves who are trying to get faster and faster.

Other examples:

- It is common that Directors might learn that they get 30% less paid 2 weeks before the shootings start, if he does not accept that then he will be exchanged.

- If you get ambushed in some mexican desert by a drug cartel and they shot at you with machine guns while you are filming… then the company will tell you that this is terrible that you lost all the equipment and the car but it's not their problem.

- Some companies try to save money where ever they can, especially when it comes to safety. As a result you might get killed by a lion or a falling framework.
- The most creative part of this "creative business" is the creative way how to get as much film subsidy as possibly. And how to trick the private or public broadcasters. ("Oh no… we can't give you any more money for that", after work is done "Could you write us an invoice just for the broadcaster about twice that amount of money?")

- Directors always love their next film but not the one they are working on. At least they are always busy phoning about this new movie instead of really working with you to finish that damned current thing - they are happy if they "finished" it within 2 days even if the deal was "you have 3 (paid) days for that"… that's the spirit of real artists…

- the most loved sentence in the whole business is "das versendet sich", which means that they believe no one will see or hear their terrible errors when it runs on TV. But how could you hope to get real quality when the editors sleep on the studio sofa almost every night?

- The films and program is made for some imaginary person that is the result of statistical nonsense. As a result only people aged 60+ wants to see this rubbish. You will never see a show like Breaking Bad made in Germany…

- the business is full of a*holes, you might find yourself thinking "Unfortunately I know something that you don't know… you might be out by tomorrow" while talking to a well known actor about its kids during a break…
Or you often can watch the dubbing-director say "oh great, yes… blah… wonderful" and as soon as the person leaves the studio the director takes his phone "That actor you send to me… I'll never want to see her again!"

- the audio staff has no idea about audio, and even worse the directors often seem to forget that there is something like audio at all. While in fact audio is usually much more important for a movie than the picture (just turn off audio for 5 minutes, then do the opposite and don't look on the screen - audio gives you much more information about the story, about the place etc.)

- germany actors (enough said)

- "payment" = "delay"… waiting 3-6 months is normal. Sometimes they even think it is ok to change the deal after the work is done and even after invoices are sent. Somewhere up in the chain is the guy who earns interest because of your financial problems, the same guy who already makes most money anyway.

- working hours (enough said)

- labor union… muhahahaha looool rofl

- In Germany your job is that of a Eierlegende Wollmichsau (a person who does all things and even more). I do sound design, camera assistance, foley editing, dubbing, editing, restoration, recording, mixing… oh and even those stupid "laugh tracks" that I always hated when watching a show (turned out that I am really a master in that, maybe you must hate it to become really good in some things?)



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This is a genuine, serious inquiry: What genre?
He really works in many different genres.
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:35 PM   #22
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This is a genuine, serious inquiry:
What, by the way, were you thinking of charging for "WOTA: Seehund Type XXVIIb"?
Can't tell yet.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:58 PM   #24
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... while talking to a well known actor about its kids ....
Gœtz George?
He's my favorite!


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germany actors (enough said)
Please explain.



Wow.
You make the German movie business sound so .... bleak.
When I think "German Movie Business", I think: UFA, "Christiane F." & "Heimat".
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No, sorry I don't have time to explain that. Just watch some usual german movies.
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