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Old 09-17-14, 10:46 PM   #1
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Default Loading a save and crew is on the bridge submerged

Several of my save games have reloaded fine, but to my dismay, the crew is posted on the bridge while I am submerged.

I cannot remove them as they are replaced automatically since I am apparently "on the surface."

I suppose I could keep playing but I have always quit since it seemed likely there were other bizarre errors lurking...

Any ideas? I searched the forum but did not find anything useful...
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Old 09-18-14, 02:06 AM   #2
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Did you save the game submerged. There are several posts recommending that saving submerged should not be done and could be the cause of the problem. I would carry on and just surface as this might reset the situation. Once you dive again the watch crew will go below as well I would think.
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Old 09-18-14, 03:19 AM   #3
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Similar thing happened to me before. Solution was to save on the surface all stop with clear weather, then quit and restart the game.
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Old 09-18-14, 04:21 AM   #4
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Several of my save games have reloaded fine, but to my dismay, the crew is posted on the bridge while I am submerged.

I cannot remove them as they are replaced automatically since I am apparently "on the surface."

I suppose I could keep playing but I have always quit since it seemed likely there were other bizarre errors lurking...

Any ideas? I searched the forum but did not find anything useful...
Cristo this happens to me as well sometimes. I have found that hitting "P" (periscope depth) seems to wake up everybody (computer included) and the crew come off and into quarters immediately.
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Old 09-18-14, 04:31 AM   #5
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As above, if you have saved a game whilst submerged, just hit P as soon as the game loads to get the crew below - then go to you desired depth.

I have often saved games while submerged with no problems other that this momentary glitch with the watch crew.
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Old 09-19-14, 05:21 PM   #6
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It's not as bad as ctd when loading a savegame just because you are submerged. A nasty bug. Very disappointing when you save your game after you hit a convoi and sneaking around for hours and it crashes leaving you the only option to lad a previously saved game. Remember always to save as often as possible. I never noticed that the crew can stay on deck in shiii, only in shv its a well known bug
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Old 09-19-14, 09:00 PM   #7
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Speaking of it there it goes. 3 saves are crashing. Dam it. :-\
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Old 09-20-14, 06:39 AM   #8
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Speaking of it there it goes. 3 saves are crashing. Dam it. :-\
So even though you followed all the guidelines for a successful save (be on the surface, away from ships, at TC 1, etc.) the saves are still getting corrupted?
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Old 09-20-14, 11:01 AM   #9
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I have usually saved my games while underwater, and loaded them later with no trouble at all. Mostly because I am about to attack, and (if/when) I mess it up, I can hit "alt-F4" to quit, relaunch, and get all my ammunition back.
Only one time recently did I get hit with an underwater load bug.
I was attacking a convoy and was ducking under (way under) some ships. The upper tower had been damaged, but the pressure hull was still tight, so I went to 160M, to avoid the depth charges. Something happened that forced me to quit and reload, and when I did, the minor damage suddenly became fatal. Loading at 160m, with minor damage and within range of a convoy killed my sub. I tried everything, even emergency surface, but to no avail. There simply wasn't enough time to effect any changes before my sub was crushed by pressure.
I have been more aware of my save game locations these days...
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Old 09-20-14, 11:20 PM   #10
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So even though you followed all the guidelines for a successful save (be on the surface, away from ships, at TC 1, etc.) the saves are still getting corrupted?
Yes. But I have to add that I died on that mission. I tried to reload the last 3 saves, and they ctd. Using lsh3 with sh3commander and some mods. I activated one or two before loading, but deactivating doesn't did it either. Maybe I try to load a save further back.
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Old 09-20-14, 11:22 PM   #11
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But meanwhile I patched the sh3.exe with h.sies and the other guys patcher. Don't know if it gets worse then :-D
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Old 09-21-14, 12:10 PM   #12
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I believe the real secret to getting successful game saves is to have a very stable game in the first place. In my experience, this means only ever adding mods before commencing a career and not making any subsequent changes within that career.
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Old 09-23-14, 06:06 AM   #13
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But does a simple change of let's say a dds or tga file make the game unstable? And I changed them back with no results. It's hard to start a new career when you spend hours in that old career with 10 patrols
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Old 09-23-14, 08:19 AM   #14
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But does a simple change of let's say a dds or tga file make the game unstable? And I changed them back with no results. It's hard to start a new career when you spend hours in that old career with 10 patrols
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To avoid losing a career > > backup your career...backup...backup...backup...

I learned my lesson. I now backup my career after every "save & exit" event and rename them accordingly to my point in date/time of game. I currently have 8 backups of my "D. Duckstein" patrol 7 career. Renamed example: 8. D. Duckstein 6July42 0127 hr

This will not help fix the buggy thing in your game, but it will help save your career. I have never to this point in time experienced your problem with my game by saving while on the surface or submerged. I feel my game files are stable due to the fact I am using very few mods. I might note that all of my mods are JSGME enabled, and no other files have been edited manually. Of course my system is only a 3 GB, 32 bit system and that alone prevents my mod soup load from being heavy.

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Old 09-23-14, 08:52 AM   #15
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I do backups of course too, but thanks for the hint anyways. I add the whole saves folder into a zip file. The problem is that all worked fine until my boat was sunk by a warship, the warspite during the weserübung, and lots of other destroyers were present. I was 500 metres or less to the warspite when they sunk me. In sh3commander there was the option to surrender and I clicked on it. Because I was dead/imprisoned I couldn't start via the sh3commander do I started without it. From that point on the last 3 or 4 saves were impossible to load. I will try to load other saves on weekend, maybe I can start the last patrol from the base. Better than throwing my good people away.
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