December 7, 1941

XTBilly · 06-22-16, 10:01 AM

Is there a way (any way) to make the German campaign start from December7, 1941?
Has this been tried before?

I'm a great fan of IJN. I've been playing sub sims since 1987, when I bought my first PC. I always wanted to experience the Japanese side, I-Boats that is. Reading Mochitsura Hashimoto's "Sunk" when I was young made me even more obsessed with the IJN.

UBIsoft provided me with a great sub sim, SH4. But also disappointed me deeply. The German campaign in the Pacific and Indian oceans, had very little (if any) results. The main combatants in the Pacific were USA & Japan. Why U-Boat missions and not I-Boat missions? IJN had some of the most unique subs of WW2. The mission variety is endless. From passing through naval blockades to supply isolated garrisons, to releasing deadly human torpedoes, release and retrieve scout planes over enemy territory etc.

UBIsoft had the chance to create something unique here, with making a IJN I-Boat campaign. SH4 is the Pacific Theater of Operations. Why should they throw two U-Boats and a campaign starting from 1943? Spare me the historical accuracy. The XXI presented in SH4 didn't see any action at all, not only in the Pacific but in the whole darn war !!!

I understand. UBIsoft introduced 1.5 UBM because U-Boats "sell". Everyone loves them. I love them. But why in the Pacific? SH 2 & 3 were about the U-Boat war. They had plans for SH5 for another U-Boat half-war campaign. I mean, come on!! Four out of five SH series have U-Boats modelled. What's keeping me from playing SH3 with GWX Gold to experience "the real thing"? Who wouldn't do that instead of playing their abomination of a U-Boat campaign in the Pacific? Why not create even a single class I-Boat (for the first time in gaming history) and a suitable campaign for it? But no, they preferred money over originality. Fully acceptable.

The question is: can WE do something about it? Keltos created some magnificent I-Boats. Unfortunately the Japanese Campaign project died. Is there any way to create a port (in Tokyo Bay for example) and change the German starting date to Dec 7, 1941? AT LEAST to start the Pacific war from the beginning...

Regards,
Billy.

Sailor Steve · 06-22-16, 12:49 PM

XTBilly · 06-22-16, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Thank you very much for your answer and your time.

Regards,
Billy.

06-22-16, 01:28 PM

And I want a Destroyer Command 2, so I can chase you and destroy.
What was it beautiful, where we met by SH2 / DC ... and then the submarines have sunk to diverse kind. My clan tag was DSK_Ralf.

XTBilly · 06-22-16, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleiente

And I want a Destroyer Command 2, so I can chase you and destroy.
What was it beautiful, where we met by SH2 / DC ... and then the submarines have sunk to diverse kind. My clan tag was DSK_Ralf.

Yes, good times indeed!! Great experience and great fun!! Always good to remember!

Ich hoffe, dass wir uns wieder treffen werden, lieber Freund. Gute Nacht.

06-22-16, 02:11 PM

Well ... grenades and torpedoes are loaded, SJ radar just activated ... Contact via PPI ... capture ... align guns and heave ... FIRE !!!

Gute Nacht und auf künftige Spiele.

06-22-16, 10:01 AM	#1
XTBilly Officer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 242 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	December 7, 1941 Is there a way (any way) to make the German campaign start from December7, 1941? Has this been tried before? I'm a great fan of IJN. I've been playing sub sims since 1987, when I bought my first PC. I always wanted to experience the Japanese side, I-Boats that is. Reading Mochitsura Hashimoto's "Sunk" when I was young made me even more obsessed with the IJN. UBIsoft provided me with a great sub sim, SH4. But also disappointed me deeply. The German campaign in the Pacific and Indian oceans, had very little (if any) results. The main combatants in the Pacific were USA & Japan. Why U-Boat missions and not I-Boat missions? IJN had some of the most unique subs of WW2. The mission variety is endless. From passing through naval blockades to supply isolated garrisons, to releasing deadly human torpedoes, release and retrieve scout planes over enemy territory etc. UBIsoft had the chance to create something unique here, with making a IJN I-Boat campaign. SH4 is the Pacific Theater of Operations. Why should they throw two U-Boats and a campaign starting from 1943? Spare me the historical accuracy. The XXI presented in SH4 didn't see any action at all, not only in the Pacific but in the whole darn war !!! I understand. UBIsoft introduced 1.5 UBM because U-Boats "sell". Everyone loves them. I love them. But why in the Pacific? SH 2 & 3 were about the U-Boat war. They had plans for SH5 for another U-Boat half-war campaign. I mean, come on!! Four out of five SH series have U-Boats modelled. What's keeping me from playing SH3 with GWX Gold to experience "the real thing"? Who wouldn't do that instead of playing their abomination of a U-Boat campaign in the Pacific? Why not create even a single class I-Boat (for the first time in gaming history) and a suitable campaign for it? But no, they preferred money over originality. Fully acceptable. The question is: can WE do something about it? Keltos created some magnificent I-Boats. Unfortunately the Japanese Campaign project died. Is there any way to create a port (in Tokyo Bay for example) and change the German starting date to Dec 7, 1941? AT LEAST to start the Pacific war from the beginning... Regards, Billy.

06-22-16, 12:49 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Operation Monsun lets you run a full u-boat campaign from the start of the war, or most times during the war. You can operate out of Europe or the Pacific, but I think only when the real monsun boats did so for the latter. As for Japanese boats, I'm unsure about any of that. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1097 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1403 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1477 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1336 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1449 While you're at it you might want German voices in your German boat: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=4032 OR (but not together) http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1083 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1529 __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-22-16, 01:28 PM	#4
Bleiente Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	And I want a Destroyer Command 2, so I can chase you and destroy. What was it beautiful, where we met by SH2 / DC ... and then the submarines have sunk to diverse kind. My clan tag was DSK_Ralf.

06-22-16, 02:11 PM	#6
Bleiente Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Well ... grenades and torpedoes are loaded, SJ radar just activated ... Contact via PPI ... capture ... align guns and heave ... FIRE !!! Gute Nacht und auf künftige Spiele.