Nvidia tweaks to SH3/SH4

[TopcatWA]

Hi Captain Dave,

I have tried your settings but still get the SLI band on left of screen.

If anyone knows how to get rid of it, it would be appreciated.

Cheers

[TopcatWA]

After a bit of fiddling around I eventually found how to get rid of it.
Very simple -at the top of the nVidia Control Panel screen you see
a toolbar with

'3D Settings' tab next to 'File, Edit and View', from the top left CP Window.
Simply uncheck 'Show SLI Visial Indicators'.


I often wonder why the most simplest of tasks are sometimes the most diffiicult to do

Cheers

[Captain Dave]

I probably turned that OFF years ago and forgot all about it. Don't get old, man.

its off topic but im upgrading my system and thinking about the video card (i have 1 8800gt 512mb) so can someone tell me why anyone "needs" more than one video card? nobody has every given me a good answer except to say "you just do" which to me only means its because everyone else does it.

skip the bench marks and impressing the boys bit but really, i've seen single card rigs work great and i dont see any benefit to running 2 or even 3 cards when one good medium to high end card is cheaper?

i've never had a single card not do everything i could ask of it so whats the point having more cards other than lightening your wallet? what am i missing here?

[Arclight]

It's for the ultra-high crowd; Multi-GPU setups scale better at high resolutions. If you want to run everything at the max possible resolution, with all bells and whistles + Super Sampling AA & 16xAF... well, at least for the dual/triple high-end card setups; there are more sensible applications:

If you have a motherboard that provides the needed 32 PCI-E lanes, SLI/Crossfire doesn't have to be expensive. Just get 2 9800GTs, and your performance will come close to or equal a GTX275/285, for less money.

The main drawback is the entry price; powerfull PSU for 2 cards and MB capable of full SLI/Crossfire (those 32 lanes). Your electric bill will suffer too.

I agree though that 2x GTX 295 (or even 2x GTX285) is just silly, and very costly. Just a matter of preference.

ok, so running 2 medium level cards brings you the performance of a high end card at less price but more power is used so your accessaries (psu, mobo, and case cooling) must all be beefed up.

now i understand it better, and yes thats what i was thinking about. when i see them get 2 or 3 of those high end cards. to me it was pointless for anyone to spend that much $ unless you get some great reward from it. i guess if your running a 36" or higher monitor then maybe it could make a difference but not something i think is good for the smaller desktop monitors.

i could build 2 or maybe 3 high end computers with med-high end single video cards for what i see them spending on those multi high end video card rigs.

sorry about getting off topic i just figured you guys were the ones to ask

[TopcatWA]

I have another question on SLI setups.
Is anyone out there using the latest nHanser 2.5.1 (64-Bit) & getting good graphics & frame rate when playing SHIV?
I have tried this with SLI enabled & cannot set it up with recommended
settings from posts on this topic & cannot find in this version anything suitable.
I've got the latest nVidia & framework drivers (64-Bit) but keep on getting
compatabilty errors in the Windows/Systems32/NvApps.xml files -
error in document (838, 47).
When I do a search for this document, nothing comes up in relevant.xml file.
Game runs ok using the nVidia Control panel settings with SLI enabled using Capt. Dave's settings without running nHanser but with it running on similar settings doesn't improve things especially the frame rate.

Cheers

[Arclight]

It was working fine (nHancer 2.5.1 64b on Win7), but now it doesn't start, giving the error you described. Seems like some Windows-update screwed compatibility, could try rolling back.

[seaB]

SH4 main menu video settings set at highest level did not make a great picture for the game; mainly there was jagged edges.

I just tried nHancer yesterday.
I first thought I don't want to choose "Global" because that will affect all my other various PC game video settings.
I just want to set it for SH4.
I'll went straight to making a nHancer SH4 Profile.
I could not get it to work and thought this nHancer advise is rubbish.

I then tried using the Nvidia Control Panel > 3D Settings > "Manage 3D Settings"
or
"Use the advanced 3d image settings" > "take me there" >"Global Settings" > tweaked it = SH4 has NO Jaggies anymore.

I thought if that works so must nHancer.
I reset Nvidia 3D settings to 'Let the 3D application decide".
I opened nHancer.
I used the Global settings as described by #1 post and it worked perfectly = SH4 no more ugly jaggies.
The graphics are now very exciting!

I think it is very important in this discussion to include what size you pc monitor + resolution, video card etc, is
so no doubt can be put on poster's worked or not worked replies = mainly eliminating jaggies.
I think I only read 2 posts in this long 12 page #282 post thread that mentioned monitor size / resolution.
I was beginning to think that it could only work for smaller sized monitors therefore lower resolutions.
I read somewhere that SH4's native resolution / what this game was optimized for is something like 1080 x 768.
It has to get enlarged / scaled-up to play on larger monitors which causes the jagged edges.

My monitor is 22inch - native resolution is 1680 x 1050.
Pentium 4 3.0Ghz.
2 GBs RAM
Video Card - Asus EN 9500 GT OC - 500MB RAM.

This nHancer works on my system.
A bit of a nuisance though having to install the .Net Framework 3.5 beforehand that nHancer needs to work.
I think modern Nvidia driver with tweaked Global settings works just as good too with my PC specs.

[Arclight]

Did you assign the game's .exe to the profile you made in nHnancer? Should work fine. Just set the global profile to "best quality", should disable some speed optimizations enabled by default.

Nvidia's CP also has profiles btw, you don't have to set global to get it to work.

Imho resolution is irrelevant these days since everyone decided to limit themselfs to only 1 by getting LCD's.

[seaB]

Originally Posted by Arclight

Did you assign the game's .exe to the profile you made in nHnancer? Should work fine. Just set the global profile to "best quality", should disable some speed optimizations enabled by default.

I thought I was doing it right.
I may try again with the SH4 Profile later if my other games are slowed down by the new nHancer Global settings.

Imho resolution is irrelevant these days since everyone decided to limit themselfs to only 1 by getting LCD's.

Irrelevant - No! - Different sized LCD screens have different native/best resolutions.
What I was looking for in this discussion was some SH4 gamers saying that they have at least a 22inch PC monitor with native resolution of 1680 x 1050
and were able to eliminate jaggies with nHancer or their Nvidia 3D settings = evidence by example.
That info would have made me stick at finding the answer instead of trying it once, failing and giving up and
maybe thinking this info is out of date or not relevant to large screens or current Nvidia drivers, etc.

BTW here is 1 screenshot example of my nHancer result. Look at those nice clean fine wires and the realistic rendering and weathering of the sub!

[Arclight]

I'm very familiar with the nice clean rendering.


Resolution has no bearing on whether nHancer works or not. nHancer just sets some values in the registry, just like Nvidia CP. Multi-Sampling, as far as I know, doesn't care about resolution either.

[Arclight]

Don't know if it's still relevant, but nHancer 2.5.1 crashes with ForceWare 185.xx and later. Update to latest and you're good to go.

[Paulowanclift]

Glad I found this thread, I've often wondered why my screenies with everything on high do not look as good as some other peoples. I've only done a quick test so far but I think its looking a lot better.

[java`s revenge]

Originally Posted by Rubini

LOL
Thanks for the reply.
The problem is that some guys didn´t know about the max 4x AA for nvidia to avoid sun halo problems (again: at least on Sh3). BTW, i noticed that in your pic above you are missing some good image quality...yours wires lines are broken..this could be "fix" by using transparency SSAA for example. So this is just a crusade for the more perfect image that IMHO is one of the best things that these expensive cards have to offer for us, gamers.

The specs of my pc are,
Geforce 260 gtx
driver 178.24 (best driver that works)
Intel i7 processor.
Vista 64bit.

Tried Nhancer but i can`t install it by the driver version.

I also get these broken lines. What i try i can`t solve this matter.

Do someone have an idea?