The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[Shiplord]

will this be the new DRM system for SH5 also?
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/52...rything-Online

[Lanzfeld]

Yeah. I have "The Orange Box" (Halflife 2) and it really blows to have to go online each time I want to play it.

:d own:

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

Yeah. I have "The Orange Box" (Halflife 2) and it really blows to have to go online each time I want to play it.

:d own:

Just don't install the Orange box and then stop playing it then year or so later go back and forget password.

I had a hell of a time trying to convince the techs i was telling the truth, cause i thought i lost the manual that had the key printed on it I was stuffed. Well not really stuffed i could still play Half life 2 and Portal but not Team-fortress 2 which online is required. Did a good clean up and found the manual, took a digital photo of the key which they required and emailed that to them once they confirmed i wasn't bull ****ting them they were very supportive. But what angered me is i was telling the truth from the start!

Whatever happen to Innocent till proven guilty!

Besides didn't matter after about a week of playing TF2 i gave it up couldn't really get into it. So i resold The orange box and made a profit! Auction sites let the bidding begin. lol

[ronjonthobi]

i think that ubisoft should take a long hard look at this site before the ever announce something as stupid and ridicluous as this DRM feature.

Also i have found out....i think it was from subsim that 89% of people who would buy the game won't beacause of the DRM feature. And i am 100% behind those guys.

I also think that ubisoft are going to lose so much money from the lack of sales of the game if its brought out with the feature.....and lets be honest the game is probably gonna get cracked anyhow...its just gonna be the legit gamers who are gonna get screwed over

[Gilbou]

I will not buy the game if this happens with SH5.

Recently I bought Rainbox Six Vegas 1 and 2 to play with friends,
and the security software fails on my new PC which has a brand
new combo drive (DVD reader+writer and Blueray). Ubisoft has not
been able to help (buy a new drive or a new PC even if I just spent
cash to buy a new one and it's under warranty unless I change a
piece of it so I'm not going to void my warranty...) and the company
that did the security check (Securom) never replied after three
help requests...



I won't make that mistake twice.

>> Last edited by Neal Stevens; 01-26-2010 at 02:12 PM. Reason: Read forum rules about cracks
I understand the edit Neal. What I don't is you removed the most important
part of my post : DRM in various games has destroyed the gaming community
we had created with friends. We met, over the years, playing the same games.
We gathered, created our own website, keeping the patches there and game
info. We played, every day, together for years. And DRM broke all of that.
With each new game, each new DRM, some of our members, real friends,
could no longer play with us. They spent days, weeks trying to find a solution,
and they did not. The editors of the games offered no solution. The editors
of the security DRM code never bothered answering any request : NONE.
So others kept playing, and slowly, less and less players came to the games.
Today, the site is gone. The friends are gone. Left are our memories of
funny and great gaming moments spent together, in old games we no longer
play. It is a very bitter taste.

I do understand why you did edit the post, and I do agree with you.
But you did remove what was the most important and painful thing
about this whole DRM issue. You are pushing the finger in the wound
and turning it in doing so.

[Onkel Neal]

I'm betting all PC games will go to online authentication eventually. True, there are a few people on the planet who play games in their doublewide without internet accesss, and there are occasions where internet access is not available to play, but the PC gamer is usually connected to the web 24/7.

[Reece]

There are still a lot of people who don't have phone lines let alone an internet connection, and a lot with only 56k dialup modems, would cost a phone call every time they wanted to play, that sucks!!

[Onkel Neal]

Haha, not so many, I think. And how many of them play high end games?

[Alienfresser]

Hey even mass effect 2 will come without DRM, besides is the DISK in the tray.

[TDK1044]

I understand the point that Neal is making, and I think he's right, but I'm not happy with this kind of authentication. If DRM online is part of Silent Hunter V, then it will certainly give me pause for thought.

I'm glad I haven't pre ordered the game yet. By the same token though, Ubisoft has not yet stated that Silent Hunter 5 will require DRM online authentication.

If they do, then as the 'Sharks' say....."I'm out".

[Sulikate]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Crappy DRM would be the only reason for me not buying SH5. I don't care what the rationale behind this or that DRM is, it's crap. Eventually ALL games get cracked, no matter how "strong" their protection is, so a good old serial number is as good as any fancy protection, and it doesn't bother legit users.

Truth has been told here .

[SteamWake]

Which would you rather have that or a call to put the disk in every time you want to play?

[Gilbou]

Online authentication, okay.

And they day they stop the servers ? What will you do ?
Stare at the DVD cover ? Play with memories of the game ?

You're no longer buying a game you can play as much as you want.
You're renting a game. And when they pull the plug, it ends for you.

I will not accept online requirement to play a game. Not because of
the hassle, but because someday they can pull the plug and either
diseappear or don't care about you playing an old game.

[snapli]

Hi all!

I had to join this forum to comment on this DRM-issue, too. And there is one thing, that didn't get enough attention after all:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Crappy DRM would be the only reason for me not buying SH5. I don't care what the rationale behind this or that DRM is, it's crap. Eventually ALL games get cracked, no matter how "strong" their protection is, so a good old serial number is as good as any fancy protection, and it doesn't bother legit users.

You won't buy a complete game; all you'll get for your $$$ is just a fragment of a game, with the missing parts being downloaded at runtime. That's the reason for the permanent connection requirement and that's the reason why the whole crack-idea will fail, in the end.

I agree that almost every other game was cracked in the past, but these guys had the whole package in their hands to do their dirty work ...

I bought SH3, won't buy SH5 as I can not support buying something that I don't own completely and, furthermore, being dependend on external infrastructure.

Cheers,

Snapli

[JU_88]

The biggest question I would have is, what will Ubisoft do if (or should I say 'when') the pirates produce an offline crack for their OSP?
If this happens, wouldn't it be most wise for them to patch out the system on all effected games immediately?
If they dont, surely they could end up with a piracy epidemic similar to that of EA's Spore - or worse?