Struggling to play sub sims - after years of trying! - Page 2

USA~Driver · 09-26-15, 05:55 PM

Some of us 'cheaters' that use auto TMA still go through the process of solving the towed ambiguities. Just thought I'd put that out there.

Mike Abberton · 09-27-15, 10:32 AM

"cheaty" was a bad way to say it, but I think Pisces was referring to the way the AutoCrew and resolve ambiguities without either a course change or a contact on another array. I think he was saying that the Autocrew "cheats" by doing things that the player cannot.

I don't think he was implying that it was cheating to use the autocrew. I do most of the TMA, broadband, and narrowband work manually, but sometimes I'll turn it over to the AUtocrew when there is a lot of other things happening. I always leave the active intercept autocrew on, but that takes way too much attention to do manually and still generate good data.

USA~Driver · 09-27-15, 12:11 PM

Aye.

My style of play is the true crew concept. I use auto TMA simply because I'm the skipper and frankly I have 'crewman' to do that - same with active intercept - my attention is focused elsewhere, weps, nav, sonar. I always found manual TMA a bit boring and as i said I'd rather concentrate on other aspects of platform management. I've completely perfected using the auto - crewman there is really no need to change now. Whatever I shoot at - dies - that's what counts in the end.

I will admit to auto Weps here and there just for multiple preset purposes. Other than those its manual operations throughout.

To be clear here, I manually right down towed ambiguity bearings with pen and paper instead of marking them both on the sonar / NAV displays before the course change. I hadn't thought of doing it the way described by Pisces until I saw FPSChazly do it in one of his videos. That's too much work. Pen and paper works best for me - to each his own. Different ways of getting to the same place but by no means short cutting the process.

/ Driver

Pisces · 09-27-15, 05:05 PM

I wasn't implying that the player is cheating, but the autocrew does. I can easily understand that one wants to use the TMA autocrew to help them on the TMA part. Unfortunately it takes out the mirror problem to easily.

09-26-15, 05:55 PM	#16
USA~Driver Watch Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baffles City. Posts: 21 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	Some of us 'cheaters' that use auto TMA still go through the process of solving the towed ambiguities. Just thought I'd put that out there.

09-27-15, 10:32 AM	#17
Mike Abberton Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 135 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	"cheaty" was a bad way to say it, but I think Pisces was referring to the way the AutoCrew and resolve ambiguities without either a course change or a contact on another array. I think he was saying that the Autocrew "cheats" by doing things that the player cannot. I don't think he was implying that it was cheating to use the autocrew. I do most of the TMA, broadband, and narrowband work manually, but sometimes I'll turn it over to the AUtocrew when there is a lot of other things happening. I always leave the active intercept autocrew on, but that takes way too much attention to do manually and still generate good data.

09-27-15, 12:11 PM	#18
USA~Driver Watch Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baffles City. Posts: 21 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	Aye. My style of play is the true crew concept. I use auto TMA simply because I'm the skipper and frankly I have 'crewman' to do that - same with active intercept - my attention is focused elsewhere, weps, nav, sonar. I always found manual TMA a bit boring and as i said I'd rather concentrate on other aspects of platform management. I've completely perfected using the auto - crewman there is really no need to change now. Whatever I shoot at - dies - that's what counts in the end. I will admit to auto Weps here and there just for multiple preset purposes. Other than those its manual operations throughout. To be clear here, I manually right down towed ambiguity bearings with pen and paper instead of marking them both on the sonar / NAV displays before the course change. I hadn't thought of doing it the way described by Pisces until I saw FPSChazly do it in one of his videos. That's too much work. Pen and paper works best for me - to each his own. Different ways of getting to the same place but by no means short cutting the process. / Driver

09-27-15, 05:05 PM	#19
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,892 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	I wasn't implying that the player is cheating, but the autocrew does. I can easily understand that one wants to use the TMA autocrew to help them on the TMA part. Unfortunately it takes out the mirror problem to easily.