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Old 12-05-05, 10:30 AM   #1
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Hi,

i´ve got a simple problem.
if i place subs into the campaign.. for example kiel and they shall move from the harbour to the sea they do not appear and of course they don´t move. Speed is set to 10 and depth to 0 m. If i place them into the harbour with the "docked sign" they appear at the given date.
How do people from IUB get them to move???
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Old 12-13-05, 08:24 AM   #2
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...for example kiel and they shall move from the harbour to the sea they do not appear and of course they don´t move...
I also attempted something like that, It does not work; this game... sorry, this editor is like a "what you see is what you get" program.
If you try to be serious, it just does not understand it.
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Old 12-13-05, 05:59 PM   #3
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i got it somehow...
when u install serge´s ai-uboats you have to use them to get subs moving. original u-boats from stock game don´t do that. unfortunatly the 3 inch gun looks quite ugly.. but you can simply change it by editing the "equip" file in the submarine folder with an editor
Now i have a great campaign feels like i´m really in war!
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Old 12-14-05, 08:59 AM   #4
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i got it somehow...
when u install serge´s ai-uboats...
Well I am glad you found the solution...
happy hunting
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Old 12-14-05, 04:34 PM   #5
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Have you set way-points for them, plus make sure the wp also has a speed indicated, then create a loop of the waypoint.
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Old 12-24-05, 06:46 PM   #6
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Sorry but I cannot get them to move at all even with a way points, I think
it is just brokening. Just a bug in the game!!!
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Old 12-26-05, 04:41 AM   #7
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Have you set the command to be human in the editor, you need to tick the box?
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As it says above just how do I get a DD that's stationary to move as soon as a torpedo hits a target ? Something like in GW scapa single mission as soon as you hit something that DD goes searching.
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Old 05-12-06, 10:35 PM   #9
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As it says above just how do I get a DD that's stationary to move as soon as a torpedo hits a target ? Something like in GW scapa single mission as soon as you hit something that DD goes searching.
Make sure its not a docked ship and not set to delete at last waypoint. I've never, I repeat, NEVER had a problem with undocked destroyers not raising hell when the torpedoes start exploding.
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thank for the advice.
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Old 02-08-08, 06:59 PM   #11
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I'm working on a mission that involves a German AI sub on the surface. I've given it waypoints, and a speed. But when I test the mission out: 1) she's at dead stop and remains and dead stop and, 2) her flak guns are not manned, nor is their a watch crew.

Even odder, when I first encounter her and lock her up in my UZO, the UZO indicates a speed of 13 knots (which is what she's been scripted for) but she's not moving.

Any ideas what is wrong and/or what I need to do to have an Axis AI sub move as scripted and manning her flak guns?
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Any vessel you put in a mission will start at the defined speed, but will eventually slow down to zero if you don't define also a speed for the waypoint. New waypoints are always set with zero speed and you must change the speed by hand (right click on waypoint).
Now, coming to the unmanned sub, it depends on what version of AI sub you are using. They come in several "flavors", with or without crew set on deck. A version with crew on deck has been created by Sergbuto and you can find it here:

http://hem.bredband.net/serbut/

I've done my own experiments with AI subs/ships and I think you'll find them very limited in what they can do, actually frustratingly limited. Apart from attacking the enemy when in range, they can do nothing. They strictly stick to their set waypoint and are unable to go after the enemy on their own. In fact, the only ship AI worth of this name in the game is that of escorts. They move on their own when they see the enemy, they attack realistically etc. All other vessels are most limited. Even big warships like battleships or cruisers are limited to this "follow the waypoints" behavior.
Further reading about AI subs and wolfpacks here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...pack+crew+deck
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Old 02-09-08, 03:24 PM   #13
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Any vessel you put in a mission will start at the defined speed, but will eventually slow down to zero if you don't define also a speed for the waypoint. New waypoints are always set with zero speed and you must change the speed by hand (right click on waypoint).
Now, coming to the unmanned sub, it depends on what version of AI sub you are using. They come in several "flavors", with or without crew set on deck. A version with crew on deck has been created by Sergbuto and you can find it here:

http://hem.bredband.net/serbut/

I've done my own experiments with AI subs/ships and I think you'll find them very limited in what they can do, actually frustratingly limited. Apart from attacking the enemy when in range, they can do nothing. They strictly stick to their set waypoint and are unable to go after the enemy on their own. In fact, the only ship AI worth of this name in the game is that of escorts. They move on their own when they see the enemy, they attack realistically etc. All other vessels are most limited. Even big warships like battleships or cruisers are limited to this "follow the waypoints" behavior.
Further reading about AI subs and wolfpacks here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...pack+crew+deck
Thank you for the very detailed answer! Tis greatly appreciated!
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