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Old 10-21-17, 05:21 PM   #211
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Default WAC ships displacement values

Hello,
I'm glad that this mod was finally released. It's visual quality and features never seen before made me back to SH3 after few years break and I doubt if there will be any better mod than this. However...
I never played previous WAC versions so I'm little confused about in-game ship displacements in this mod. In my current campaign I torpedoed HMS Renown during Weserubung operation. In my log she was rated as ~48000 tons and I belive this is over estimated. Later, I went to the museum to look at all ships and I found "Large Fast Merchant" rated at 17600 GRT - but she didn't look like. I started diging...
I made mission with few ships close to each other to compare their dimmensions. I assumed that HMS Renown model exported from SH5 by Rowi58 is correct and her dimmensions are close to real one. Then I compared this dimensions to other ships:



To estimate tonnage I used formula by U.S. Coast Guard, which was implemented in one of addon charts in SH5. Some of the values I used are my estimation and error is more that sure. However, it's clearly, in comparsion to ship like T2 tanker, which is pretty close to real, that the model of "Large Fast Merchant" is way to small to be a... large merchant, and 17600 GRT tonnage is ridiculus. On the oposite side there is T3 tanker model, which is I belive SH5 export, and that ships is way to long and to wide compared to real, but it looks like close to 20000 GRT ship in game compared to others and also in game she is rated as 18300 GRT.

I think I'm going to edit the values of ships displacement for my purposes. Question is how current values have been calculated? Because in some cases they are way to big I think.

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Old 10-21-17, 05:27 PM   #212
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nope, this is an excellent rig! However, when your computer suddenly shuts down once you load game or a progam that stresses your system, it is usually an indication for faulty hardware or a driver related issue:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/window...ithout-warning

Some years ago, I had a faulty gtx 470, for example, that kept rebooting my computer whenever I tried to play any games.. After I bought a new card everything worked as intended..

If other games work on your system without your PC suddenly rebooting, I sadly have no idea what your problem is..

Maybe try to google the error code?:
https://www.reviversoft.com/blog/201...-of-your-bsod/
Oh yeah, I don't disagree that it's usually an indication of something being seriously wrong with the power or hardware. However this is the first unexpected shutdown of the computer.

I did take a look at the event log. I didn't see anything suspicious under 'system', only that an unexpected shutdown took place, apparently it went so fast it couldn't even take a memory dump.

In the 'application' section however I found this:

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Faulting application name: sh3.exe, version: 1.4.0.1, time stamp: 0x00000000
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000
Faulting process id: 0x25ac
Faulting application start time: 0x01d349d557f61ae9
Faulting application path: C:\Games\sh3wac50\Silent Hunter 3\sh3.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report Id: 797013ae-3ade-4f39-a9ea-b198c672aa4f
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
I hope that helps

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Old 10-21-17, 06:30 PM   #213
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Oh yeah, I don't disagree that it's usually an indication of something being seriously wrong with the power or hardware. However this is the first unexpected shutdown of the computer.

I did take a look at the event log. I didn't see anything suspicious under 'system', only that an unexpected shutdown took place, apparently it went so fast it couldn't even take a memory dump.

In the 'application' section however I found this:



I hope that helps
Here's something you might wanna read:https://compfreakstars.blogspot.de/2...-day-many.html

I. Try a modern 'free to play' game like warthunder, for example: https://warthunder.com/en/game/

to test if your computer shuts down here too as soon as your system has to handle something graphically intensive..

(If you don't have any other games available besides SH3. Or try to play SH3 without mods for an hour or two to test if PC reboots or not?)

II. Install latest windows drivers: Version 1709:
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/check-...-in-windows-10
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...ch.aspx?q=1709

III. Install 'ccleaner' to clean your hard drive and registry:https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download

(when you clean registry the program will ask you if you want a backup or not? It's strongly recommended to do that!)

iV. 'Display driver Uninstaller' is a nice tool to make sure graphics card drivers are installed properly:https://www.guru3d.com/files-details...-download.html

It will help you to completely get rid of old graphics card driver leftovers before you install a new one.

V. To test your RAM you can use Memtest86:
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...-test-ram.html
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to...dware-problems

Vi. Use your antivirus software to scan for viruses and malware:
https://www.malwarebytes.com/
https://www.kaspersky.com/free-antivirus

Now, all of that is of course only necessary when your computer regularly reboots whenever you start a hardware demanding program like a video game. Since you said that it never happened before there's probably no reason to be overly concerned..

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Old 10-22-17, 06:57 AM   #214
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I have run other graphics intense games successfully, I have been running SH3 for many hours on end with LSH3 2015. I have no reason to believe I have faulty hardware.

You might be onto something though with the GPU driver. I did down and upgrade to test different settings as I couldn't start SH3 properly. Right now I'm on the latest NVIDIA driver for my GPU. In another thread where i am trying to get LSH3 2015 to run again (bc I broke it somehow) I got the advice to downgrade again. So I will try to get SH3 with LSH3 2015 to run, and when that works I'll try to get WAC 5.0 to run as well.

Thanks for your help so far.
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Old 10-22-17, 07:20 AM   #215
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Yup, not every Nvidia driver works for everyone. Driver: 384.94 doesn't work on my computer, for example!

Here:https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/

people usually comment on the newest drivers and discuss if they are good or not.
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Old 10-22-17, 10:31 AM   #216
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with wac 5.0 it is early Christmas !

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Old 10-23-17, 11:00 AM   #217
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and at day :-)

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Old 10-23-17, 02:44 PM   #218
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Sailors! Do you have to leave Kiel on the automatic (heading) as in SH5?

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Old 10-24-17, 06:31 PM   #219
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Someone has sounds of repeated beats (hammer)??

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Old 10-25-17, 02:03 AM   #220
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Everyone who experiences CTD I recommend not to activate WAC campaign. There seems to problems with a unit or campaign files.
no good news Han ?
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Old 10-25-17, 02:15 AM   #221
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Hi.
What would you say to this.
Sighted convoy. Sent message to BDU. Approaching. It seems no other uboat was available. When freedom to operate was granted, I moved on. 14000 meters. While still on the surface, spotted big black smoke of explosion and after a while, half of a hull pointing to the sky. One by one, all escorts exploded and sank! The last one when I was submerged. The crew informed me by shouting as if I sank it. Checked via periscope - indeed. Any reasons for that? Planes (not seen)? Other u-boats? Mines (least probable)?
Sank 4 ships so far and night is approaching.
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Old 10-25-17, 06:03 AM   #222
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@torpille

I am examining the problem. Looks like a search for a needle in hay. Some days or weeks to go maybe, I think.
I am sorry.

@bk

Could it be bad weather?
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Old 10-25-17, 06:34 AM   #223
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@bk

Could it be bad weather?
Weather, yes, it wasn't perfect, but not so bad, wind 14m/s, big waves, but full visibility, partly cloudy, sun visible, no rain. Not good only for a deck gun.

To be exact, firstly, vessels were listing/sinking and then explosion and smoke appeared. One by one all escorts sank untill only merchants remained. After second or third escort sank, the convoy dissipated, but very soon reorganized into columns, not zigzagging. There could be collisions between merchants, when they were reorganizing, but escorts were surely separated when sank.
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Old 10-25-17, 09:02 AM   #224
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@torpille

I am examining the problem. Looks like a search for a needle in hay. Some days or weeks to go maybe, I think.
I am sorry.

@bk

Could it be bad weather?
but now the sun shines , thx .
i wait herr kaleun.
and don't be sorry.
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Old 10-25-17, 09:21 AM   #225
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Beginning 1944
Same problems for me : escort dd crash alone. Absolutely no plane Lorient until jamaica and arround. And Lorient until Le Cap south Africa

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