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Old 12-03-17, 06:02 AM   #991
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Hi J
A good question.
It was supposed to be released in 2016 but never happened.
It was then set, and ready for release in 2017 until the Microsoft Creator problems with the black screen has put the release date back yet again.
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Old 12-06-17, 09:25 AM   #992
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Hello people.

I've admitted defeat in getting LSHIII running, after a day of attempting various fixes I've seen on the multitude of pages. I'm sure it's something stupid I've neglected. But I need help from others now

My OS is W10 home, x64, 1709 creators update.

The problem is launching the game, either from the SH3 exe or LSH through Commander - I initially get a black screen, which after about 2 seconds minimises to a corner of the display and I get a "can not initialize 3D engine" prompt.

I believe I've followed Berbsters installation instructions correctly, after converting my steam version.

I tried the newest nvidia driver 388.43 with no luck. Then I tried one recommended to be compatible - 387.92.

I also tried W7 compatibility mode, enabling override high DPI scaling behaviour, scaling is set to aspect ratio, perform scaling on GPU.

Refresh rate 30Hz, only other options are 25 and 29.

I've probably tried other things which escape me for the moment.

I'd be glad of any help folks.

EDIT: 1. I'm wondering if it's Directx related and I need to install 9.0c?? 2. I tried letting windows troubleshoot compatibility with no success - it tried Windows XP sp3.
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Old 12-06-17, 11:28 AM   #993
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You have most likely diagnosed your trouble there with your last sentences. "Yes Nerazzurri, you do need to install DirectX v9.0C" when you install the game, ~then~ do all the pre-setup work for LSH...

There are "compatibility" files in v9.0C that are NOT in the later versions of DirectX, for whatever Microsoft reason (perpetual update / spend money company)...
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Old 12-06-17, 12:07 PM   #994
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Hi N
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can not initialize 3D engine" prompt.
Problem Solving the Error > Cannot initialize 3D Engine?
DirectX 9.0C > Download

Have you changed this setting
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=969

Documents\V15\data\cfg\main cfg file
VIDEO]
Resolution=1920 x 1020 < should show your monitors native resolution
FullScreen=Yes
Synchronized=No > try changing to yes
DynamicShadows=No
ParticleDensity=100.000000
TextureResolutionHigh=Yes


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Old 12-06-17, 01:37 PM   #995
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You have most likely diagnosed your trouble there with your last sentences. "Yes Nerazzurri, you do need to install DirectX v9.0C" when you install the game, ~then~ do all the pre-setup work for LSH...

There are "compatibility" files in v9.0C that are NOT in the later versions of DirectX, for whatever Microsoft reason (perpetual update / spend money company)...
Ah, OK.

I installed that after you said. I thought I'd just try it but it didn't work, as you'd expect - I'll need to start the installation afresh.

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Problem Solving the Error > Cannot initialize 3D Engine?
DirectX 9.0C > Download

Have you changed this setting
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=969


Documents\V15\data\cfg\main cfg file
VIDEO]
Resolution=1920 x 1020 < should show your monitors native resolution
FullScreen=Yes
Synchronized=No > try changing to yes
DynamicShadows=No
ParticleDensity=100.000000
TextureResolutionHigh=Yes


More helpful information.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=917


Peter
That's a strange one - I went into JSGME to disable that mod and there was no mods at all showing.

I have deleted the intro video.

Although this install was from Steam and I converted it, I'm actually waiting on a DVD version which is due any day. So I'm going to uninstall this attempt and clean up. Then I'll re-install from the disc, paying attention to installing the correct DirectX (how did I miss that?!). From memory, I think the DVD has the correct DX on it for installation too?

Thanks to both of you for replying. I'll re-visit those posts once I get the DVD.

EDIT: Oh! I tried another 2 older nvidia drivers too. I've kept them as they may come in useful.
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Old 12-06-17, 02:38 PM   #996
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Hi N
Just follow my tutorial installation instructions when you get your dvd and you will be up and running quickly.

If you bought a second hand dvd I hope you made sure you have not bought a Starforce version?
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Old 12-06-17, 03:22 PM   #997
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Just follow my tutorial installation instructions when you get your dvd and you will be up and running quickly.


Roger.

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So do I!! Focus one, ESS632?
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Old 12-06-17, 04:16 PM   #998
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Hi N
Focus will be the latest version.
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Old 12-07-17, 12:29 PM   #999
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OK, I'm good now.

Seeing as I was idle today I had another go at installing.

I uninstalled and cleaned up. And tried again, with particular attention to instructions. I just had the same result as before.

Uninstalled and cleaned up again. I rolled back Windows to before the Creator Update. This time, after installation I got a black screen with sound.

At this moment my DVD arrived in the mail.

Uninstalled and cleaned up again! Still black screen with sound.

Found this fix - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=969

This resolved the issue.

Maybe this would have worked with the steam install and/or without rolling back the Creators Update - I don't know. For the moment I have a working installation after many many hours of trying, so I'm leaving it alone. If it breaks in future I'll experiment more, now I know how to ultimately get it working.

I'm currently on 388.43 with nvidia. The same results were noted with 387.92.

I hope posting my experience helps someone.
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Hi N
The fix you are showing is recommended by the LSH3 team and appears in my
LSH3-2015 tutorials.
The problem „L/SH3 show only black screen… but with sound“ (only with Widescreen Mods) is solved > Latest Information By Urmel.
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Old 12-09-17, 12:37 PM   #1001
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Hey.

Playing several years ago, I remember being able to hit a key which reverted the TC to 1 instantly. I cant seem to find this keystroke in LSH 2015.

Searching, I found an old thread with this text -

In stock SH3, hitting Backspace will pause the game. Hitting it again will unpause it at 1x.

However, if you go into Silent Hunter III/Data/Cfg/Commands.en (or whichever language you're using) you can change this:

[Cmd6]
Name=Time_compr_normal
Ctxt=1,2,6,9

To look like this:

[Cmd6]
Name=Time_compr_normal
Ctxt=1,2,6,9
Key0=0x0D,,"Enter"

And you'll drop to 1x every time you hit the Numpad Enter key.


However, when I do that the game also fires a torpedo, as well as reverting the TC to 1.

So I tried - Key0=0x0D,,"Npad Enter"
But this had the same effect.

You can tell I'm no programmer, right?

Any help much appreciated people, thank you.
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Old 12-10-17, 03:12 AM   #1002
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Hi,

if you are in game, press <F1> for HELP and go to "Time Compression". There yo'll find the solution.

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Hey.

Playing several years ago, I remember being able to hit a key which reverted the TC to 1 instantly. I cant seem to find this keystroke in LSH 2015.

Searching, I found an old thread with this text -

In stock SH3, hitting Backspace will pause the game. Hitting it again will unpause it at 1x.

However, if you go into Silent Hunter III/Data/Cfg/Commands.en (or whichever language you're using) you can change this:

[Cmd6]
Name=Time_compr_normal
Ctxt=1,2,6,9

To look like this:

[Cmd6]
Name=Time_compr_normal
Ctxt=1,2,6,9
Key0=0x0D,,"Enter"

And you'll drop to 1x every time you hit the Numpad Enter key.


However, when I do that the game also fires a torpedo, as well as reverting the TC to 1.

So I tried - Key0=0x0D,,"Npad Enter"
But this had the same effect.

You can tell I'm no programmer, right?

Any help much appreciated people, thank you.
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if you are in game, press <F1> for HELP and go to "Time Compression". There yo'll find the solution.
Hi Rowi.

Yeah, Numpad 5 - doesn't work for me And I can't find a keystroke that does
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Hi,

you must press the key <NUM-LOCK> to switch the num-lock "ON". If <NUM 5> doesn't work the num-lock is "OFF".

Greetings
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you must press the key <NUM-LOCK> to switch the num-lock "ON". If <NUM 5> doesn't work the num-lock is "OFF".

Greetings
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Thanks Rowi. I didn't know that!
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