Paris on fire

[mapuc]

My little experience with people demonstrating is that there is more to it than most of us think.

I guess this annoncement about extra tax on gasoline, was the thing that made the boble explode.

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Catfish

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=239237

Oh man

[Dirk Gently]

Great thread. I admire how it hasn't evolved into a flame war given the current political situation in the media and on the internet in general.

[Onkel Neal]

Just wait

[Rockstar]

Oh I dont know, France could be burning to the ground, massive protests, their leaders the target of assassins and terrorists. But wouldn't ya know it the focus is on, Trump, his lack of decorum and the size of his hands. You know, things that REALLY matter. I don't expect to hear much from the peanut gallery.

[Dowly]

Says the only guy who has brought up Trump in this thread.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Says the only guy who has brought up Trump in this thread.

I was playing trumps the other day. Does that count?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I don't expect to hear much from the peanut gallery.

Originally Posted by Dowly
Says the only guy who has brought up Trump in this thread.


Whoops, my mistake we got a winner!

[Catfish]

I'm sure Perrriss had less problems with fires if they just raked their floors better, like they do in Finnland
Rake France great again. Maybe Dowly can elaborate..

[Rockstar]

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Catfish

I'm sure Perrriss had less problems with fires if they just raked their floors better, like they do in Finnland
Rake France great again. Maybe Dowly can elaborate..

I've no idea what you're talking about.

[Rockstar]

Macron announced a string of measures intended to assuage protesters’ anger over the rising fuel prices, including a system to adjust taxes depending on the cost of crude oil, and a “national consultation on ecological and social transition”.

Where does that leave ‘Yellow Vest’ protesters?
Angry, that’s where. Macron’s concessions failed to impress the movement’s leaders, who swiftly called for fresh protests on the famous Champs-Élysées Avenue in Paris on Saturday.


“People feel like their opinion doesn’t count, that’s the message that’s being sent,” said Priscilla Ludosky, one of two Yellow Vest representatives who met with Ecology Minister François de Rugy on Tuesday


Is there public support for the protests?
Overwhelming support. According to a poll published by OpinionWay on Wednesday, 66 percent of respondents said they backed the Yellow Vest protests, while 78 percent said Macron’s proposals to help defray the rising cost of fuel were “insufficient”. A survey published last week by opinion research firm Ifop reached similar results, with 66 percent of those questioned stating they had a “favourable view” of the movement. The movement has also taken hold in France’s overseas territories. Life on the tiny Indian Ocean island of Réunion has been nearly paralysed by the protests, which have forced some schools and businesses to close. Overseas Territories Minister Annick Girardin arrived in Réunion on Wednesday, where she met for over an hour with Yellow Vest protesters angry over the high cost of living and widespread unemployment, which has reached 24 percent on the island.





What the hell is “national consultation on ecological and social transition” ?????

https://www.france24.com/en/20181128...hange-philippe

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, but if we are going to counter global warming/climate change, we have to burn less fossil fuels, and the only way to really slow down consumption is to make it more expensive, with taxes. I don't get it, why are the French opposing saving the planet?

[Rockstar]

Starting in 2014, under Macron's predecessor and erstwhile boss François Hollande, the French government has been ratcheting up fuel duty, saying that this will encourage motorists to adopt greener forms of transport.

Adopt what greener forms of transport? Maybe I was wrong, maybe French President Moron is an idiot.

There are plenty of Parisians who complain incessantly about pollution (I’m one of them). However, in the rural and exurban areas from which the ‘yellow vest’ revolt emerged, vehicle pollution is not exactly at the top of the agenda. Amid this divide between an uncomprehending Parisian elite and left-behind rural workers, it is unsurprising that these protests sprang up without the support or affiliation of any political party.

https://capx.co/frances-fuel-protest...rons-failings/

And just what the hell does “national consultation on ecological and social transition” mean ????? Was there something lost in translation?

[August]

And what about this?

Meanwhile a rise in global oil prices has pushed up the wholesale cost of fuel, causing diesel prices to increase by 25% and petrol prices by 15% over the past year. Seemingly unmoved, the Macron government has...

What rise in global oil prices? I thought it is somewhere down in the $50 per barrel range?