GER politics thread

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

What does the Luftwaffe (GAF, German Air Force) of may 2nd, 2018 have in common with that of may 2nd, 1945?

They have four airworthy jet fighters left.

Originally Posted by Skybird

^ Thats makes them too precious to use.


Das ist die Überlegenheit des SED-Nachfolgestaates.

So does that mean everything in the German inventory will be at RIAT 2018?

EF2000...............TLG-74.....Fighter...............Static
Tornado IDS........TLG-33.....Ground Attack....Static
Tornado IDS x2....TLG-51.....Ground Attack....Static

https://www.airtattoo.com/airshow/ai...irmed-aircraft

Forgot to mention these two transports and as they are all clearly going to be static and not flying will that mean they will be shipped over across the channel

A400M......LTG-62......Tactical Transport........Static
C-160D.....LTG-63......Tactical Transport........Static

[Skybird]

You do not need tactical mobility to announce strategic goals. We make these mobile things pointless by solving roots of conflicts on strategic supra-levels, you see, thats saves us a lot of technical maintenance. We plan to use the forces of our neighbours for that, which we want to put under German command. No joke, but serious. The first draft for this was announced 12 or 18 months ago. The others march and fight and do the work - we command from Potsdam HQ.

Inclusion of the disadvantaged, making each and all of the 100s of gender identities feeling welcomed, and ethnic quotas especially for Muslim groups, instead have become the new weapons to fight off an enemy on the tactical level - he laughes himself to death.



The mouse that dreamt to be a vegetarian tiger.


West Rome, 5th century, anyone...?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You do not need tactical mobility to announce strategic goals. We make these mobile things pointless by solving roots of conflicts on strategic supra-levels, you see, thats saves us a lot of technical maintenance. We plan to use the forces of our neighbours for that, which we want to put under German command. No joke, but serious. The first draft for this was announced 12 or 18 months ago. The others march and fight and do the work - we command from Potsdam HQ.


The mouse that dreamt to be a vegetarian tiger.

Yet another reason why Brexit is necessary

[Skybird]

The German powergrid, just twenty years ago, was once considered to be the most stable and reliable on the whole continent. Politicians and ideologists have changed that.



https://translate.google.com/transla...ben&edit-text=


In the past two or three years I noticed more micro-blackouts in my home than in all my life, 48 years together.



Camp fires have their romantic charme. But only as long as you do not depend on them, dear Green idiots.

[Catfish]

^ Not the "greens".

It is indeed the nerds and high-level engineers who did and do that, not only to Europe's power grid. All has to be computerized, to control energy flow and infrastructure.
All has now to be managed remotely, and without human manpower, via the internet. This is not the idea of the "greens". They have failed miserably because thy now simply adopt the industry's goals, and take their money instead of shooting them
This internet of things will be easily broken, if someone decided to strike militarily. The war is already on.. Russia does it, China does, Israel, the US just now tries to cloud their involvement using fake spoof IPS to do exactly what happened in Hamburg. Stuxnet is everywhere.. "Smart city", my donkey.

[Skybird]

No, the Greens, the eco-religious. Dismantling more oil and coal powerplants than could be replaced, trusting that always a wind blows and always the sun shines, no sufficient capacities of backup powerplants that could cope with shoprtcuts in supply from renewables, all that vtechnology, like you just diod, being dmeonised and declared "evil", or "nerdy". Germany is described by quite some insiders as the main cause now for shortages and emergency situaiton in the powersupply in most pof Europe and especially our neighbours, especially Austria hates Grmany for that, becaaue all these neighbours must pushz their own supply schemes over the limit whenever the Germans call for help and call for emergency imports when German electricity production cannot handle the demand anymore.



In the past it was the other way around.


The German energy policy is, as policies always seem to be in Germany, driven by lobbied ideologies and beliefs, not by sober facts. And thats why this damn, many times cursed thing called "the German way" once again collides and cracks open on the hard ground of reality. This time in the name of anti-nuclear, anti-coal, anti-gas. Result: Germany now is the black centre of growing instability in the whole continental electricity supply network. From the very top to the very bottom. antastic achievment, Germany. Fantastic. And its so - so green!






Not to mention that many of our neighbours now run nuclear even more. In powerplants that are more unsafe in parts than the Germans ever were.



Supergreen!

Bei uns in Deutschland -wo eigentlich alles seit 15 Jahren schief hängt- gibt es ziemlich viele Entwicklungen, welche (zumindest nach gesundem Menschenverstand als auch gegen das Grundgesetz) verboten als auch strafrechtlich mit Höchststrafen als gemeinschaftlich verbrochene, mafiös organisierte Ambitionen seitens der Polizei als auch der Justizminister in einzelnen Bundesländern angestrebt, mit einem Höchstmaß verfolgt, die betreffenden Personen vor ein Strafgericht gestellt und verurteilt gehören.
Ich fürchte, wir fallen sonst um gut/etwa 100 Jahre Rechtssprechung zurück, wo ein Idiot wie Roland Freisler das Sagen ähmmm Geschrei hatte...

Allein diese Ambitionen seitens der Regierung gegen einen Rechtsstaat wäre Begründung genug, eine neue Form des Widerstandes gegen eines kommenden absolitären Polizeistaat`s (aka Stasi 2.0) zu gründen und die maßgeblich Vorsitzenden bzw. zeichnenden Mitglieder im Namen des Heimatschutzes auszuschalten.

[Skybird]

We already have fallen out of the law and order state, Bleiente - not just since Merkel, who breaks laws and treaties as she pleases. The state can and does constantly unilaterally chnage rules and laws to his liking. Poltical actors cannot be voted out, they also get brought back into the game by their buddies in the background. Failures and insufficient services does not legitimise citizens to sue state and politicians.



In principle we still live by rules of the medieval where a small group of landlords owned the peasants and even could demand compensation from a village if a worker died and his working power vanished.


Democracy in the end is just a failed attempt to get away from those conditions. But the chnages it made, were just cosmetical - and also are always ruinous for the collective society. I am not the first pointing out that democracy in the modern understanding of this term - not the ancient greek one, which was totally diferent - always necessarily leads into socialist dictatorship.



Many modest-minded, reasonable, rational, caring people turn away from this state nowadays, refuse to actively stand up for it any longer, acitvely getting engaged for it, or invetsing their resources into it. I refuse to do so, too. When people like these are willing to tolerate even radical nutheads and violent revolutionists, because they see no other way to change the current state elsewise, then this depletes the community of its best minds and capable caretakers, and shows how desillusionised these people are. Obviously polticians are so dumb that they do not even realise this danger to themselves while it stares them angrily straight into their face.



Some people are so full of themselves that they even cannot imagine that somebody not liking them and not seeing them as indispensable is a real possibility. And if they get a doubt, they try to force the others to like them, by laws, by sanctionising them, criminalising them, opening the media witch hunt on them.


Henry Louis Mencken, whom I stumbled over some weeks ago, has some nice remarks worth to be quoted:


"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorrance."


"Every election is sort of an auction of stolen goods."


"Democracy is th art of running the circus from the monkey cage."


"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, raise the black flag and begin slitting throats."


"For every complex problem there is an answer that is simple, clear, and wrong."




He also said this:
"We are here and we are now. Further than that, all human knowledge is moonshine."




All ideolgiosts claim they know the final truth and they know that their ideolgioy works - "if only this", "if only that". If it fails once again, it never is its fault, and if it succeeds - well, does it ever? These people never think they must subject themselves to the principle of test and experiment, of verification and falsification, they must not test their claims becasue they believe and claim they "know" they are true. They are running a religion with themselves being the idol, at least the prophet, at its centre.


Such people are a pest, tormenting mankind since ages.


I say leave it to the people, to field experiments, to the market. Have many different appro9ahce son a question, and see what works in reality, and what not. And there you have your answer. Workign answers will be copied by others, failing answers will be rejected by others - no matter your claim that yiou "know" that in piciple it should work, andn would work "if only" this, "if only" that.


Politicans and political parties must be overcome and must be get away with by ignoring them and showing something that works without them and by that reveals how useless and irrelevant they really are. In the end, they are only useless imposters, antisocial parasites.

Deutschland ist der neue Hort für faschistische Ideen als auch gerade durch die EU-Rechtsgebung vorgebebene Nazi-Vorschrichtungen im Namen der "Demokratie"... Welch ein Glück habe ich doch, daß ich bald einfach meinem Leben selbstzufrieden einem schicken Ende entgegensehen werde... einfach so selbstbestimmt.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Bleiente

Deutschland ist der neue Hort für faschistische Ideen als auch gerade durch die EU-Rechtsgebung vorgebebene Nazi-Vorschrichtungen im Namen der "Demokratie"... Welch ein Glück habe ich doch, daß ich bald einfach meinem Leben selbstzufrieden einem schicken Ende entgegensehen werde... einfach so selbstbestimmt.

Bist du in psychologischer Behandlung? Hört sich an als bräuchtest du Hilfe. Da muss man auch keine Berührungsängste haben, dass ist mittlerweile völlig normal.
Die Welt ist übrigens gar nicht so grausam, wenn man mal den Realitätscheck macht. Pfeif dir z.B. mal den Typen rein:

Danke der Nachfrage... aber nein - bin ich nicht.
Ich gebe aber zu, daß ich über eine dissoziative Persönlichkeit "verfüge", welche sich durch div. Trigger den Weg an die Oberfläche bahnen als auch die Kontrolle übernehmen kann... hat mir auch schon viel Ärger eingebracht.


Aber alles halb so schlimm, wenn man weis, womit man es dabei zu tun hat.
Meistens sehe ich es mit Humor (wie man an meiner Signatur sieht); ist halt für Dritte sicherlich etwas befremdlich, wenn "Jack" plötzlich anfängt zu poltern u/o einem äußerst makraben Humor verfällt.

[Skybird]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/o...ean-union.html

Good read in the New York Times. I would add more points that speak against her, but at least those he focusses on are correctly described. Merkel has ruined thigns so far that by now her net effect is destructive just because she is what and how she is.

Personally, I rate her as the biggest German and European disaster since 1933 and the terrible fallout coming from that year, and I do not say that lightly or in a rhetorical understanding only. I mean it literal.

[Jimbuna]

Threads merged.

[Skybird]

https://translate.google.de/translat...317&edit-text=

I have a growing distribution dispute in mind. There will be programs for the further pooling of liability, joint deposit insurance, joint unemployment insurance, as demanded by the French, a common budget for the Eurozone - ultimately with transfers from Germany to other countries. Germany will - admittedly hesitant - give in to prevent the collapse of the system. We are no longer free in our decisions. The target balances make Germany unable to act because it no longer has the option to say 'no'.

It cannot escape to end ugly. And I am thnakful for that. Anything else would absolutely violate my sense of justice.


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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/...al-perversion/

From its very beginnings, and despite all high-sounding political proclamations to the contrary, the EU was never about free trade and free competition. For that, you don’t need tens of thousands of pages of rules and regulations! Rather, the central purpose of the EU, supported all-along by the USA, was always the weakening in particular of Germany as Europe’s economic powerhouse. To facilitate this, Germany was sent on a seemingly never-ending ‘guilt trip’ and thus pressured to transfer increasingly larger parts of its already limited (vis-à-vis the USA) sovereignty to the EU in Brussels. Especially noteworthy in this regard: Germany’s giving up its monetary sovereignty and abandoning its traditionally ‘strong’ currency, the DM, in favor of a ‘weak’ Euro, issued by a European Central Bank (ECB) composed overwhelmingly of politically connected central bankers from traditionally ‘weak’ currency countries.


The EU, then, is characterized by three main features: First: The harmonization of the tax- and regulation structure across all member states, so as to reduce economic competition and especially tax-competition between different countries and make all countries equally uncompetitive.


Second: On top of the economic and moral perversity within each country of punishing the productive and subsidizing the unproductive, another layer of international income- and wealth-redistribution is added: of punishing economically better performing countries like Germany and the countries of northern Europe and rewarding economically worse performing countries (mostly of southern Europe) and thus successively rendering the economic performance of all countries equally worse.


And third, of increasing importance especially during the last decade: In order to overcome the rising resistance, in many countries, against the steadily increasing transfer of national sovereignty to Brussels, the EU is on a crusade to erode, and ultimately destroy, all national identities and all social and cultural cohesion. The idea of a nation and of different national and regional identities is ridiculed, and multi-culturalism is hailed instead as an unquestionable “good.” As well, in promoting the award of legal privileges and of “special protection” to everyone, except white, heterosexual men, and especially married family men (who are portrayed as historic ‘oppressors’ owing compensation to everyone else as their historic ‘victims’) – euphemistically called “anti-discrimination” or “affirmative action” policy – the natural social order is systematically undermined. Normality is punished, and abnormity and deviance is rewarded.

A coup against freedom. A conspiracy against self-responsible, sovereign people. A plot to assassinate all historically grown sense of own identity and culture.

Does it take any more arguments to defend wanting to destroy the EU at all costs? Not for me. I now tolerate every price and every cost to bring it down, no matter what. The EU must be destroyed - or Europe gets destroyed: and with it, Europeans, and 2500 years of precious European culture.