Amelia Earhart mystery - Page 2

Rhodes · 07-11-17, 06:27 AM

Always thought they were abducted and in 24th century found by Voyager!

Platapus · 07-11-17, 04:47 PM

Lets look at some of the factors in this final flight

1. It could be said that she was not that skilled a pilot, more of a publicity grandstander (thanks to Putnam). Most of her recognition was because of her sex and not her pilot skills. Most of her records were doing something for the first time, not necessarily doing them the best. During her career she never won any competition where she was competing against other pilots.
2. She had limited experience with multi-stop trans ocean piloting, especially over the distances involved in the Pacific
3. She had limited experience with this particular aircraft
4. The aircraft was ill-suited for this type of trip
5. In order to make the fuel stretch, important survival and commo gear was removed.
6. The aircraft was highly modified and the modifications were untested. The added fuel tanks drastically altered the flight characteristics and she did not have enough time to fully test this.
7. She was unfamiliar with the radio navigation system which was brand new to the aircraft. Noonan, an experienced navigator, reported earlier in the flight deviations using this new equipment. Not good when you are trying to find a sliver of an airstrip in the middle of an ocean. This radio direction finding equipment was damaged in Darwin and repaired.
8. The RDF equipment on the Itasca could not tune into the frequency she was using so there was no back up radio navigation capability.
9. The aircraft, after being involved in a ground accident during the first attempt, was repaired quickly and there were no test flights to determine how the accident/repairs may have affected the modified aircraft.
10. Itasca was onsite and started the search north of Howland island where the signing was estimated as being. All told there was one battle ship, one aircraft carrier, and two Japanese ships involved in the search. After that, there was a privately funded search of the surrounding islands. All with no evidence of any aircraft nor personnel found.

Given all this, it seems most likely that her aircraft simply ran out of gas and crashed into the ocean.

As United States Navy Captain Laurance Safford wrote after his research of the accident, it was a result of "poor planning and worse execution".

Mr Quatro · 07-12-17, 08:37 AM

Fool me once, fool me twice ... somewhere a long the line it's going to be my fault

Quote:

Last week, the History cable channel revealed a photograph said to possibly show the vanished aviator Amelia Earhart on a dock in the Marshall Islands after she disappeared, possibly clearing up one of the 20th century’s greatest mysteries. On Tuesday, however, a Japanese blogger wrote that the photo was taken two years before she went missing and isn't Earhart.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-photo-n782016

Aktungbby · 07-12-17, 01:32 PM

Vs:

< the Japanese version which 'crops' some of the aircraft which is 38' feet-the length of an Lockheed Electra-38' 7"....now on a barge! The two pictures are both very iffy: is that even a female seated on the pier? And who dares take photos if the Japanese are into secrecy and terror of Chammoro natives??

Both the stamp and Dr. Amram's account both reflect an entire plane 'hanging on the far side of the ship" with the right wing broken: since the plane's generator for all the garbled 8 days of messages to Itasca and stations around the world: https://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/ResearchPapers/Brandenburg/signalcatalog5.html until July 10 is in the right wing !!! this creates post-crash radio plausibility problems. Here's where the plane really is!

Since both the 1935 Jap photo and the Navy archive file purported secret 1937 and all the second hand native witness from Mili to Saipan are innately undesirable... including 1944 US gravedigging marines!

let's cut it down to 3 Australian soldiers, engine numbers and one reliable radio operator on Nauru Island!

https://earhartsearchpng.com/2016/01/16/earhart-lockheed-electra-search-project/ Of course I expect the bones and the Pratt & Whitney engines to disappear again...

07-11-17, 06:27 AM	#16
Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,486 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	Always thought they were abducted and in 24th century found by Voyager! __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

07-11-17, 04:47 PM	#17
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,946 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Lets look at some of the factors in this final flight 1. It could be said that she was not that skilled a pilot, more of a publicity grandstander (thanks to Putnam). Most of her recognition was because of her sex and not her pilot skills. Most of her records were doing something for the first time, not necessarily doing them the best. During her career she never won any competition where she was competing against other pilots. 2. She had limited experience with multi-stop trans ocean piloting, especially over the distances involved in the Pacific 3. She had limited experience with this particular aircraft 4. The aircraft was ill-suited for this type of trip 5. In order to make the fuel stretch, important survival and commo gear was removed. 6. The aircraft was highly modified and the modifications were untested. The added fuel tanks drastically altered the flight characteristics and she did not have enough time to fully test this. 7. She was unfamiliar with the radio navigation system which was brand new to the aircraft. Noonan, an experienced navigator, reported earlier in the flight deviations using this new equipment. Not good when you are trying to find a sliver of an airstrip in the middle of an ocean. This radio direction finding equipment was damaged in Darwin and repaired. 8. The RDF equipment on the Itasca could not tune into the frequency she was using so there was no back up radio navigation capability. 9. The aircraft, after being involved in a ground accident during the first attempt, was repaired quickly and there were no test flights to determine how the accident/repairs may have affected the modified aircraft. 10. Itasca was onsite and started the search north of Howland island where the signing was estimated as being. All told there was one battle ship, one aircraft carrier, and two Japanese ships involved in the search. After that, there was a privately funded search of the surrounding islands. All with no evidence of any aircraft nor personnel found. Given all this, it seems most likely that her aircraft simply ran out of gas and crashed into the ocean. As United States Navy Captain Laurance Safford wrote after his research of the accident, it was a result of "poor planning and worse execution". __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-12-17, 01:32 PM	#19
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,848 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Vs: < the Japanese version which 'crops' some of the aircraft which is 38' feet-the length of an Lockheed Electra-38' 7"....now on a barge! The two pictures are both very iffy: is that even a female seated on the pier? And who dares take photos if the Japanese are into secrecy and terror of Chammoro natives?? Both the stamp and Dr. Amram's account both reflect an entire plane 'hanging on the far side of the ship" with the right wing broken: since the plane's generator for all the garbled 8 days of messages to Itasca and stations around the world: https://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/ResearchPapers/Brandenburg/signalcatalog5.html until July 10 is in the right wing !!! this creates post-crash radio plausibility problems. *Here's where the plane really is!* Since both the 1935 Jap photo and the Navy archive file purported secret 1937 and all the second hand native witness from Mili to Saipan are innately undesirable... including 1944 US gravedigging marines! let's cut it down to 3 Australian soldiers, engine numbers and one reliable radio operator on Nauru Island! https://earhartsearchpng.com/2016/01/16/earhart-lockheed-electra-search-project/ Of course I expect the bones and the Pratt & Whitney engines to disappear again... __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe" Last edited by Aktungbby; 07-12-17 at 06:01 PM.