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Old 02-26-21, 09:41 AM   #181
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Then there's Germany who while crying a river over others sales to Saudi Arabia sneak in a billion dollar arms sale. Then goes back to crying about others lack of concern for Yemen.


Since early 2019, German arms manufacturers exported over €1 billion ($1.1 billion) worth of weapons to Egypt, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and other countries fighting Houthi rebels in Yemen as part of the Saudi-led alliance.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-sells-...ion/a-53000044
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Old 02-26-21, 09:50 AM   #182
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Yep.


Or China. Pro forma complaints - but not too hurting, precious Chinese sentiments else may get upset - about human rights violations and such, but handing over German key technology and knowhow for short earned money incomes. Fiat currency that will not be worth much anymore in the forseeable future - and key tech competencesomncpoetences hande dovert to the Chienser. The US does it, too. Everybody seems to do it.

Its a stupid world. And we will reap what he have sown. Rightfully.

If we would at least insist on getting paid in solid gold. But not even that. Just bytes and paper tokens. Hopeless.
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Old 02-26-21, 09:53 AM   #183
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Or germany and Turkey. Germany dleivers plkent yof stuff to them, cpoupled with an erected pointing finger of "boobooboobooboo - don'T you do any bad thing with that in Kurdistan!".



Illogical. And so self-embarassing. Hypocrisy.
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Old 02-26-21, 09:58 AM   #184
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^ of course no one will stop selling weapons , but if you can inject a bit of pressure in the negotiations you are maybe in a better position to put through some additional interests, may it be price, strategy or politics. And while it does not make anyone more trustworthy, it is a sign to S.A. that the US will still maintain ties and share intelligence.

If you just hush it up, your standing will not be better than if you did what you did now, in the eyes of the world. And it gives a broad hint that such action as done by Mohammed Bin Salman does not get unnoticed, even between allies. Yes, no one should have diplomatic ties with such regimes let alone sell them weapons, but .. China, Russia .. and it is better to keep up speaking with another. Better than what was done in the last years.
https://de.rt.com/nordamerika/106594...audi-arabiens/
Yes, RT, i know ..

In other words: hypocrisy. Price, strategy and politics, you said, might be what you influence this way. Reduce it to price. Not China's and not Saudi Arabia's and not Russia's and not Turkey's strategy and politics have been changed one bit by these things. To claim that is a German text book example of opportunistic self-deception.



Which is okay, since it all is about money anyway. Hypocrisy. Or should I say: selling of indulgences. So take the money and turn your back on things.
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Old 02-26-21, 09:51 PM   #185
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I dont know if this has hit the airwaves yet. Here's the UNCLAS DNI assessment of the Saudi who done it mystery. Unfortunately there's not much too it.

https://cryptome.org/2021/02/Assessm...h-20210226.pdf
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Old 02-27-21, 06:30 AM   #186
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re Skybird:
Oh, Russia has good contacts to Saudi Arabia. You are right, all german self deception and that, but currenty only the party "Die Linken" have it in their program to cut weapon deals with S.A.. So you want to vote for them?

At least we do not exactly boast with having good ties to S.A. .. on he other hand who can withstand those beautiful smiles ..

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Oh, Russia has good contacts to Saudi Arabia. You are right, all german self deception and that, but currenty only the party "Die Linken" have it in their program to cut weapon deals with S.A.. So you want to vote for them?
You think a football team scoring a goal has won the tournament just of that - when the other team has scored 15 goals?
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