[REL] Playable Russian Subs

[CaptainX3]

Originally Posted by DarkShark22

Hi!
I really like your mod and I have used every soviet sub!

I just couldn't help noticing that the Yankee class and the two Delta's don't have VLS while SSBN's should be able to launch missiles, right? (just like the Typhoon in-game). Are you planning to give them VLS?

(my english isn't the best, I'm Dutch)

No, I wasn't planning to give those VLS, because those subs don't have cruise missile VLS systems. They have SLBM systems, but SLBMs aren't modeled in the game. The Typhoon in the mod that has VLS is a theoretical conversion from ballistic missiles to cruise missiles, but even the regular Typhoon doesn't have VLS.

If the devs ever implement SLBMs into the game, then I'll update those subs.

[captinjoehenry]

Originally Posted by CaptainX3

No, I wasn't planning to give those VLS, because those subs don't have cruise missile VLS systems. They have SLBM systems, but SLBMs aren't modeled in the game. The Typhoon in the mod that has VLS is a theoretical conversion from ballistic missiles to cruise missiles, but even the regular Typhoon doesn't have VLS.

If the devs ever implement SLBMs into the game, then I'll update those subs.

Hey there I edited the performance of the P500 P700 and Sea Lance to their real speeds if you want the code.

[Hydra01]

Originally Posted by Daldryk

In two words no one really knows, unless you've tried it... I add that we are in a kind of simulator everything is allowed in mod. The settings suited me.

I wouldn't have a problem with that being in a separate mod, though I definitely wouldn't want that in this one since the 41 kt top speed does seem the be the accepted top speed even by many Russian sources as well as Western ones.

[Daldryk]

Originally Posted by Hydra01

I wouldn't have a problem with that being in a separate mod, though I definitely wouldn't want that in this one since the 41 kt top speed does seem the be the accepted top speed even by many Russian sources as well as Western ones.

No one to talk about including it in this mod . It takes 1 second to change the value.

[CaptainX3]

Mod updated!

[Raptor_Pilot]

Originally Posted by CaptainX3

Mod updated!

Sweet Words!

[goldfish716]

I have added new diesel variants of the Skipjack inside my download of the "Playable Russian Subs Mod". Let me know if you want to add them to your mod.

1. The Barbel class, a diesel clone of the skipjack.
2. The (early) Barbel class, a diesel clone of the early skipjack, but with bowplanes rather than sailplanes.
3. The Yushio class, a Japanese development of the Barbel with side launch tubes, better sonar, lower test depth, and harpoon missiles. (My favorite).

All boats are slow and quiet.

The Barbel/Skipjack has other derivatives which could be added, like the Zwaardvis-class of the Netherlands and the Taiwanese Chien Lung-class.

I also reduced the acceleration slightly on these boats and increased the turn rate of the Barbels due to their reduced length.

Known bugs: The damage control tab doesn't display properly. Probably an easy fix if you know what you are doing. Fixed.

[Aktungbby]

goldfish716! & Hydra01...after a very long 6 year silent run!

[The Bandit]

Just wanted to throw this idea out there because I'm not really one for modding but may try my hand at it.

This would be a compromise because new models can't be added into the game but, how would people feel about some of the Soviet Diesels modles used as stand-ins for older boats like the Skates (thinking Romeo model) and the Seawolf (old one SSN-575, was thinking the Tango model could fit if you overlook the 3rd prop)? I'm also toying around with the idea of creating the USS Tullibee (SSN-597, using the Permit class model). Other possibilities are the Barbel, Tang and even GUPPY boats. Not really a great fit but the Echo or November could probably fit well enough for the USS Triton although admittedly the Triton was a fair deal longer.

While you won't really get the fully experience of having a finite battery charge and having to snorkel but I think these could bring a new angle to the game and make it a lot tougher if you were using an old boat.

[ollie1983]

Any chance of adding the reduced visibility and proper UI into the Russian subs mod?

[goldfish716]

Here is a link to the text files for the Barbel diesels I talked about above.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...FU?usp=sharing

You have permission to add them to your mod if you wish. Not that you need my permission -- it is publicly available without condition.

Others, please message me if you need help using these files.

[CaptainX3]

Originally Posted by ollie1983

Any chance of adding the reduced visibility and proper UI into the Russian subs mod?

I'd prefer not to force certain things like that on players that don't want it... like me for instance, I like the water visibility as it is. However, since my mod does not touch the environment files, you should be able to download the visibility mod and drag its files directly into the override folder from my mod without an issue.

As for the UI... I'm not sure which UI you mean, but there's no way for me to integrate that without forcing everyone to use it. If you mean the other UI mod that's here on Subsim, I don't care for it at all, way too much stuff from DW in it for my taste.

But, each sub has its UI set in the vessel file, and it can't be changed in the game, it can only be changed by editing the file itself. The best way to handle this would be for players to manually combine the other UI and my mod by editing the proper files, or for someone to copy my mod, integrate the other UI, and the release it as a separate mod.

[Carthaginian]

Originally Posted by goldfish716

I have added new diesel variants of the Skipjack inside my download of the "Playable Russian Subs Mod". Let me know if you want to add them to your mod.

1. The Barbel class, a diesel clone of the skipjack.
2. The (early) Barbel class, a diesel clone of the early skipjack, but with bowplanes rather than sailplanes.
3. The Yushio class, a Japanese development of the Barbel with side launch tubes, better sonar, lower test depth, and harpoon missiles. (My favorite).

All boats are slow and quiet.

The Barbel/Skipjack has other derivatives which could be added, like the Zwaardvis-class of the Netherlands and the Taiwanese Chien Lung-class.

I also reduced the acceleration slightly on these boats and increased the turn rate of the Barbels due to their reduced length.

Known bugs: The damage control tab doesn't display properly. Probably an easy fix if you know what you are doing. Fixed.

I sent the GUPPY IIA to CaptainX3 last night, along with a mission limiting them to subs they would have likely faced. I'll keep tweaking it a bit, and I'm gathering info on the Skate/Tang classes now as well!

[goldfish716]

Originally Posted by Carthaginian

I sent the GUPPY IIA to CaptainX3 last night, along with a mission limiting them to subs they would have likely faced. I'll keep tweaking it a bit, and I'm gathering info on the Skate/Tang classes now as well!

Cool. I worked on the look of the Skate/Tang today. If you apply the Delta IV textures to a Whiskey or the Foxtrot, it almost looks right.

[Carthaginian]

Originally Posted by goldfish716

Cool. I worked on the look of the Skate/Tang today. If you apply the Delta IV textures to a Whiskey or the Foxtrot, it almost looks right.

Awesome!
I was going to use the Foxtrot for them.
I'm also gonna try US colors on the Whiskey for the GUPPY. Should be fairly close.