UC3 Nautilus sunk - Peter Madsen charged with murder of journalist Kim Wall - Page 16

Aktungbby · 09-13-17, 03:47 PM

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Of course I am entitled to many opinions and so are you. The Danish legal system might be different from the British or American legal system.

Not at all! Where do U think the Angles and the Saxons came from!

HOO do YOO think U R anyhow?! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_law

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The judicial functions of the Anglo-Saxon legal system was mainly practiced by courts. Once a charge had been brought, it had to be heard by a court which would decide whether or not a crime had been committed...All shires, or counties, were subdivided into hundreds. These hundreds were subdivided into tithings. The three type of division had three types of representatives as well: the tithings had a tithingman, the hundreds a hundredman and the shires a shire-reeve.

( ie: the Sheriff...or "how the west was won" BBY)

Buddahaid · 09-13-17, 04:45 PM

He may be referring to Napoleonic Code. I think the burden of proof is different.

biosthetique · 09-14-17, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

That info wasn't established at that time. When he posted that it still looked like Nautilus had accidentally sunk with no fatalities.

That is interesting indeed, because the tittle of the thread is "UC3 Nautilus has sunk - Madsen rescued - charged with murder of journalist".

Rockin Robbins · 09-14-17, 09:51 AM

I think having best wishes for Peter would be best served by extraditing him to Texas, where they know how to treat murdering sociopaths. To all appearances, Peter has been calmly manipulating all who wish him well from the beginning, calmly stepping off the sub as he sank it, calmly explaining that it is a shame that the sub is gone but he is fine, that Kim was put safely ashore.

Now he needs a little calmly administered Texas final medication. Europe is much too "enlightened" to understand that some have forfeited their right to live.

Obltn Strand · 09-14-17, 10:24 AM

I think our way is better. 12 years in max security prison and rest of natural life in prisoners mental asylum drooling in one's lap. Easier to return convict back to society if founded not quilty.

But let's court do it's job first and if their system is similar to ours, two levels are required until he is/isn't quilty.

Mr Quatro · 09-14-17, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

I think having best wishes for Peter would be best served by extraditing him to Texas, where they know how to treat murdering sociopaths. To all appearances, Peter has been calmly manipulating all who wish him well from the beginning, calmly stepping off the sub as he sank it, calmly explaining that it is a shame that the sub is gone but he is fine, that Kim was put safely ashore.

Now he needs a little calmly administered Texas final medication. Europe is much too "enlightened" to understand that some have forfeited their right to live.

Man, that's telling it like it is

Schroeder · 09-14-17, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by biosthetique

That is interesting indeed, because the tittle of the thread is "UC3 Nautilus has sunk - Madsen rescued - charged with murder of journalist".

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Peter has been rescued, however the status of the other people who were with him are unknown.

At that point it wasn't clear that someone had actually died.

biosthetique · 09-14-17, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Breaking radio silence to inform you all that last night Peter Madsen and his crew encountered a problem with the ballast tank in the Nautilus which developed into a major issue and unfortunately the submarine sunk.
Peter has been rescued, however the status of the other people who were with him are unknown.

https://translate.google.co.uk/trans...f-det-men-okay

My best wishes to Peter at this difficult time and I hope that if there are others missing that they are found swiftly and Nautilus is able to be refloated in due course.

Ok that is a beauty.
Oberon creates a thread called "UC3 Nautilus has sunk - Madsen rescued - charged with murder of journalist". Then, he posted "My best wishes to Peter at the difficult time". And now Schroeder defends Oberon by pretending that Oberon did not know at the time he created the thread, that Peter was charged with murder. But this is Oberon that created the tittle of that thread "UC3 Nautilus has sunk - Madsen rescued - charged with murder of journalist".
WAOW!

biosthetique · 09-14-17, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

At that point it wasn't clear that someone had actually died.

Really?...If nobody actually died yet, why would there be someone charged with murder? The tittle of Oberon's thread is "UC3 Nautilus has sunk - Madsen rescued - charged with murder of journalist".

Von Due · 09-14-17, 12:02 PM

The title was changed as events unfolded. The original topic title did not mention murder as there was no indication of it at that time. This whole issue is a non-issue and unnecessary.

Onkel Neal · 09-14-17, 12:58 PM

Easy there. I changed thread title several days after the thread was started.

biosthetique · 09-14-17, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Von Due

The title was changed as events unfolded. The original topic title did not mention murder as there was no indication of it at that time. This whole issue is a non-issue and unnecessary.

I think that when a journalist is killed it is an issue, as it is unnecessary to kill journalist.

Now if the title was updated as events unfolded how come it did not read "Nautilus sunk and raised". In the title it just says "SUNK".

This whole issue is an issue and necessary to remind us the value of journalism and in any country of the world.

Sailor Steve · 09-14-17, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by biosthetique

Now if the title was updated as events unfolded how come it did not read "Nautilus sunk and raised". In the title it just says "SUNK".

So, you based a whole argument against Oberon on the title of the thread, and when told the title had been changed, rather than apologize you complain that it wasn't changed the way you would have done it. What was the point of the tirade against another member in the first place?

It looks to me like you were wrong and just don't want to admit it.

Onkel Neal · 09-14-17, 02:37 PM

Yes. No one is dismissing the tragedy or excusing Madsen. Oberon posted his comments before there was any info about the journalist. I changed the thread title. Your appropriate response should be, "Oh, I understand now".

Rockin Robbins · 09-14-17, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Easy there. I changed thread title several days after the thread was started.

And to be sure, the charge of murder came before any of the basis for the charge was out in the open. Europeans are closer to the vest with information than we are in the US. Often it keeps the innocent from being convicted. Many times it results in the conviction of someone who would be found not guilty in the US.

We've seen the injustice that can happen when cases are tried in the press, which has no stock in the truth, only sales means anything to them.

09-13-17, 04:45 PM	#227
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,557 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	He may be referring to Napoleonic Code. I think the burden of proof is different. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

09-14-17, 09:51 AM	#229
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I think having best wishes for Peter would be best served by extraditing him to Texas, where they know how to treat murdering sociopaths. To all appearances, Peter has been calmly manipulating all who wish him well from the beginning, calmly stepping off the sub as he sank it, calmly explaining that it is a shame that the sub is gone but he is fine, that Kim was put safely ashore. Now he needs a little calmly administered Texas final medication. Europe is much too "enlightened" to understand that some have forfeited their right to live. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-14-17, 10:24 AM	#230
Obltn Strand Commodore Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 614 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	I think our way is better. 12 years in max security prison and rest of natural life in prisoners mental asylum drooling in one's lap. Easier to return convict back to society if founded not quilty. But let's court do it's job first and if their system is similar to ours, two levels are required until he is/isn't quilty. __________________ Himmel, sukeltakaa!

09-14-17, 12:58 PM	#236
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Easy there. I changed thread title several days after the thread was started. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

09-14-17, 02:37 PM	#239
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Yes. No one is dismissing the tragedy or excusing Madsen. Oberon posted his comments before there was any info about the journalist. I changed the thread title. Your appropriate response should be, "Oh, I understand now". __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

09-14-17, 12:02 PM	#235
Von Due Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,660 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	The title was changed as events unfolded. The original topic title did not mention murder as there was no indication of it at that time. This whole issue is a non-issue and unnecessary.