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Old 06-22-17, 08:49 PM   #3196
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The biggest problem with that sort of "reasoning" is the liberals aren't in the White House, they don't control either of the Houses of Congress, and what they do does not readily affect the lives of all of the US population. Instead of vainly pointing fingers at others, the GOP would do better to take care of their own shortcomings and failures, particularly the enormous one in the Oval Office. Basically, it boils down to: don't tell us how bad the others outside are, tell us how you're going to fix the mess you created. We can deal with the liberals when they are in power...

As far as winning goes, the margins were far narrower than seen in prior elections and indicates an erosion of support in the GOP base. This erosion is troubling because it shows no sign of reversal; if the GOP faces even more Trump-caused failures and debacles, the trend could, and most likely, will get worse. Also, it should be pointed out that not only did the DEMs spend whopping amounts of money in the special election, so did, if not more so, did the GOP, not only expending monies but also putting several out-of-district GOP notables on the campaign phone lines or on the stump. In the 2018 mid-terms, where all 435 House seats and 33 Senate seats are up for election, the ability to throw so much effort and manpower to all the campaigns with the effectiveness seen in the concentrated efforts in the special elections will be impossible...

Then there is the growing GOP suburbs problem:

The GOP’s Suburban Nightmare --

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...ghtmare-215289

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Karen Handel’s Georgia special-election victory Tuesday enabled the GOP to kick the can down the road, but not for long. The same Atlanta suburbs that once produced Republicans like Newt Gingrich voted for Clinton in November. They followed up a few months later by nearly sending a 30-year-old, first-time Democratic candidate to Congress. Republicans may be gloating now, but it’s an ominous sign for the 2018 midterm elections, when control of the House is likely to hinge on roughly two or three dozen suburban districts currently held by the GOP.

Here is an interesting analysis of the Trump woes:

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Old 06-23-17, 12:59 PM   #3197
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Old 06-23-17, 02:33 PM   #3198
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1. Trump is President until 2020
Or
2. He wins the election in 2020 and stay until 2024.
or
3. He resign before 2020 because:
3a-His own choice
3b-Forced to it

One of these points would be correct.

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Old 06-23-17, 02:39 PM   #3199
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1. Trump is President until 2020
Or
2. He wins the election in 2020 and stay until 2024.
or
3. He resign before 2020 because:
3a-His own choice
3b-Forced to it

One of these points would be correct.

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That is very close Markus. The only thing wrong is about Trump being forced to resign. Nobody can force him to do that. He can be removed from office by being impeached but that more like being fired than quitting.

He could also loose the Republican primary to another challenger. Without his parties nomination if he wanted to run for reelection he'd have to do it as an independent.
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Old 06-23-17, 03:18 PM   #3200
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Very interesting:

https://www.scribd.com/document/3518...ort#from_embed

The Profiling Project: Seth Rich Homicide - Initial Findings – June 20, 2017
To Reach The Profiling Project
: ProfilingProjectVA@gmail.com


For Media:
media@thepublicityagency.com

Who The Profiling Project is:
– An all-volunteer group of current and former George Washington University forensic psychology graduate students and instructors.

Why we came together:
– To aid the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan Police (MPD) utilizing forensic psychology skills and tools in hopes of providing at least one actionable item to MPD

What we found
– After a three-month review and investigation into the death of Seth Rich, The Profiling Project notes the following:
1. Seth’s death does not appear to be a random homicide
2. Seth’s death does not appear to be a robbery gone bad
3. Seth death was more likely committed by a hired killer or serial murderer
4. There may be additional video surveillance of the crime and crime scene
5. The resolution of prosecuting the individual(s) responsible appears to be hindered both actively and passively
6. Seth’s killer(s) most likely remains free within the community
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Old 06-23-17, 03:56 PM   #3201
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That is very close Markus. The only thing wrong is about Trump being forced to resign. Nobody can force him to do that. He can be removed from office by being impeached but that more like being fired than quitting.

He could also loose the Republican primary to another challenger. Without his parties nomination if he wanted to run for reelection he'd have to do it as an independent.
There was a good reason to why I only wrote "forced to" While writing my comments I suddenly couldn't remember some of the words I needed-such as Impeach(ed). And that is a kind forced to=not by his own choice-I could of course be wrong.

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Old 06-23-17, 05:11 PM   #3202
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No one can force a President to resign if he doesn't want to; however, past history has shown a President, Nixon, had only two alternatives; either remain and go through the impeachment process, which had already begun, and by which Nixon was going to be convicted and removed from office, or resign. Nixon choose resignation, so he was, in effect, 'forced', since there were no other viable options available. You may not want to call it forced, but there really is no other reasonable description...

Incidentally, the Nixon Presidential Library, until fairly recently, did not acknowledge the resignation of Nixon nor the Watergate sandal that ousted him. In the Library's exhibit of the chronological history of Nixon's life and political career, the exhibit basically used to get to the point of the resignation and just commented Nixon 'left' office on 9 Aug 1974; no why or how; Nixon just 'left'. The exhibit then when on to describe Nixon's life as a private citizen. In recent years, pressured by historians and others, the Library has finally changed the exhibit to better reflect what actually occurred leading up to Nixon's resignation...




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Old 06-23-17, 05:22 PM   #3203
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Technically, no one can be forced to resign from their job... but people are forced to resign from their jobs all the time.

Usually it is in the form of either resign tomorrow morning or we will fire you tomorrow afternoon. Or better either resign tomorrow morning or we will press charges tomorrow afternoon.

Technically not forcing someone to resign.
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Old 06-23-17, 05:48 PM   #3204
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To me this whole rush to oust Trump is like a dog chasing it's tail. What do you do when you catch it? If Trump goes, however he goes....next up to bat.. Michael Richard Pence. Unlike Trump, this guy is a conservative Republican that the GOP would love. No drama, no tweeting and very little baggage (from a GOP point of view.) Pence would almost certainly be able to enlist a lot of Republican people who refused to work for Trump and he should be able to close ranks within the party. He would have his detractors but no where near as bad as Trump. Although I think the chances of Trump being removed from office are low, I can't help but wonder how many GOP members are secretly hoping for this to happen.
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You forget the freight train of people that Trump has placed in position in his cabinet, in the White House, and in the administration that are being closely investigated for any involvement in the Russian's interference in the 2016 National election.

I'm not saying they are guilty, but if proven to be guilty of sharing data and information with Russia in order to win the election ... then it has to lead back to Trump was behind telling them how to shoot the eight ball.

Sure it will be hard to prove and even harder to get a GOP led Congress and US Senate to impeach him, but not impossible. Look at the health care reform bill with three GOP Senators in disagreement.

The Russian equation of Trumps problems in keeping the WH is nothing compared with his investments and who's really behind all of the Trump empire dealings. If they can prove any irregularities in his finances ... it would snow ball his decision to step down, but not without a deal being made to protect those that know the truth from any prosecution riding themselves out of the WH with Trump.

Least we should forget Robert Mueller hasn't finished his investigation yet either. Robert Mueller has actually stated just two weeks ago, "We are just getting started". What does that mean? Plus Mueller is a GOP person for way back, but that won't keep him from finding out the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...b98_story.html

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Mueller is interviewing senior intelligence officials as the Russia probe ... Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say ... in the nearly year-old FBI investigation, which until recently focused on
One thing in all of this is the GOP led Congress and US Senate, but all of that could change in 2018. I hope not ... I am a Republican, perhaps not a party man, but I believe they have the best track for our nations interest.
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Old 06-23-17, 06:21 PM   #3206
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Very interesting:

https://www.scribd.com/document/3518...ort#from_embed

The Profiling Project: Seth Rich Homicide - Initial Findings – June 20, 2017
To Reach The Profiling Project
: ProfilingProjectVA@gmail.com


For Media:
media@thepublicityagency.com

Who The Profiling Project is:
– An all-volunteer group of current and former George Washington University forensic psychology graduate students and instructors.

Why we came together:
– To aid the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan Police (MPD) utilizing forensic psychology skills and tools in hopes of providing at least one actionable item to MPD

What we found
– After a three-month review and investigation into the death of Seth Rich, The Profiling Project notes the following:
1. Seth’s death does not appear to be a random homicide
2. Seth’s death does not appear to be a robbery gone bad
3. Seth death was more likely committed by a hired killer or serial murderer
4. There may be additional video surveillance of the crime and crime scene
5. The resolution of prosecuting the individual(s) responsible appears to be hindered both actively and passively
6. Seth’s killer(s) most likely remains free within the community
This is a great find August ... thank you.
Can you imagine what this news would've done to Hillary winning the popular vote if it had of came out earlier. People that thought this was true were in many of my emails during the election cycle.
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Seems a whole lot of useless people can be so very wrong, and somebody seems to keep on surviving. This video still makes me so happy. What is this music by the way? I know I should know, but I don't. lol

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This is a great find August ... thank you.
Can you imagine what this news would've done to Hillary winning the popular vote if it had of came out earlier. People that thought this was true were in many of my emails during the election cycle.
So, basically Profiling Project (PP) could be right or they could be wrong: exactly 50-50. Nor does the report in any way definitively support any 'conspiracy' or 'hit' claims, just 'it could be'...

Some things presented as fact very often have to be taken with several grains of salt; in this case, the report itself provides the seasoning:

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PP was given no special access to any materials, evidence or persons and due to case sensitivity, conducted only informal, limited interviews. The bulk of our report is based on statistics, prior research and Logos.

So, the report is based on an only slightly better than cursory access to less data and evidence than in the possession of the actual law enforcement investigators. Somehow, I'm inclined to put rather more credence in the LEOs...

...then there is the question of who is/are the Profiling Project; PP is funded by Jack Burkman, a GOP lobbyist and Internet radio talk-show host, and is Far-Right Conservative; how far Right is he?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Burkman

Besides being very conservative, Burkman seems to at very much at ease with duplicitous base-covering; from the Wikipedia article:

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In June 2016, Burkman held an event called "Lobbyist for Trump" and invited all major lobbyists of Washington, D.C. to help raise money for Donald Trump's presidential campaign.

In July 2016, Burkman helped fundraising for Free the Delegates, an anti-Trump effort to change the delegate rules for the 2016 Republican National Convention.

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Seemingly, Burkman has no real loyalties or feels the need to be consistent in his viewpoint; maybe being in a lobbyist, being one of the "swamp" gators, being essentially a 'hired gun' for the highest bidder, little more than a self-serving effort at the "truth" could be expected...

It should also be noted Burkman attempted to involve himself and his lobbying firm with the Rich family in the guise of "helping" them in the aftermath of Seth's murder, but his actions of the family's behalf became so troublesome and blatantly political, they distanced themselves from Burkman and his activities:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Seth_Rich

This is a link to a Newsweek article of 20 June 2017 updating the Rich case:

http://www.newsweek.com/seth-rich-mu...project-627634

Of note is this quote from the article citing the Profiling Project on the subject of conspiracy and/or assassination theories regarding the Rich case:

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As for the conspiracy theories, the Profiling Project says those are unfounded, given that Rich did not die immediately at the scene: “A professional killer, whose sole job would have been to terminate Seth, did not accomplish their mission prior to escaping.”

“If this were a professional hit person, they failed,” says Doherty, the team member. “Nothing we’ve seen supports [the theory of] an assassin.”

The truth is out there if one wishes to seek it out rather than be spoon-fed...


In this whole matter, my heart goes out to the parents of Seth Rich. In order to try to attain some level of space in which to properly grieve, the Washington Post published their plea to stop all the senseless speculations:

We’re Seth Rich’s parents. Stop politicizing our son’s murder. --

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...20a_story.html

From their plea:


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We also know that many people are angry at our government and want to see justice done in some way, somehow. We are asking you to please consider our feelings and words. There are people who are using our beloved Seth’s memory and legacy for their own political goals, and they are using your outrage to perpetuate our nightmare. We ask those purveying falsehoods to give us peace, and to give law enforcement the time and space to do the investigation they need to solve our son’s murder.

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Winning again in 2020 has its own problems for Donald "The long nose" Trump. How to pass the door to the WH a second time with a nose as long as his?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...smtyp=cur&_r=0
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It came to me just now, Peter and the Wolf. lol
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